Where to send negative entites (and other adventures)?

[Wannabewizard]

It has been bugging me for some time, that I don't really know where to send negative entities for certain.
Given that my entire life seems to be one giant, lengthy exorcism, I ought to at least ask here where it is considered correct to send removed negatives, both great and small. The Abyss, Hell, Council estates, political institutions? ...all much the same

It had occurred to me that if your not specific, it could go badly wrong and just linger outside somewhere and wait for you or someone else unsuspecting.
I find this also affects the 'authority' I can put into something If I am uncertain, but that probably makes sense.

I find a lot of gunge is coming up out of me, 'decompressing' and then sticks to the outside. And of course the longer it sticks, the more it attracts.
This is more of a spontaneous truth process than a professional ceremonial exorcism.
Also, does it matter what system is employed?
I once found out accidentally that screaming at some demonic shards whilst wielding a kitchen knife, was a surprisingly effective, if temporary way to remove some problems attached to me. I learned something that day.

I now know that it has to be done properly to remove every last shard, or it will stick to passers by/regrow.

What to do with it ?

 

[Asteriskos]

It has been bugging me for some time, that I don't really know where to send negative entities for certain.
Given that my entire life seems to be one giant, lengthy exorcism, I ought to at least ask here where it is considered correct to send removed negatives, both great and small. The Abyss, Hell, Council estates, political institutions? ...all much the same

It had occurred to me that if your not specific, it could go badly wrong and just linger outside somewhere and wait for you or someone else unsuspecting.
I find this also affects the 'authority' I can put into something If I am uncertain, but that probably makes sense.

I find a lot of gunge is coming up out of me, 'decompressing' and then sticks to the outside. And of course the longer it sticks, the more it attracts.
This is more of a spontaneous truth process than a professional ceremonial exorcism.
Also, does it matter what system is employed?
I once found out accidentally that screaming at some demonic shards whilst wielding a kitchen knife, was a surprisingly effective, if temporary way to remove some problems attached to me. I learned something that day.

I now know that it has to be done properly to remove every last shard, or it will stick to passers by/regrow.

What to do with it ?

@Wannabewizard ,

Excellent question!

Sometimes it's enough to forcefully exclaim: "Begone!", especially while wielding a blade of "ferrous", (iron/steel) metal, which does affect dense "etheric" level energy. You can "scrape" vampiric energy draining cords quite clean with one! Being careful not to cut yourself of course!
It's possible to "stab" and "cut" dense etheric level manifestations as well. There are lots of ways to deal with "etheric" manifestations.

Now, if you encountered an unwanted trespasser in your home you might say: "Beat it!, Leave NOW!, Get the F*ck Out!, (be Creative).
If you were Serious, they Will get the message. Why? Because it's "Your Domain", by right of occupancy, Not Theirs!

But, if for some reason stronger measures are required, such as a full ceremonial evocation or an exorcism, there is a mechanism referred to as the "License to Depart" which traditionally instructs an "entity" that the ideal place is often somewhere termed "thine own habitation" or (vibratory level).

There is a lot of information available on topics like this on the net, but you might start out with this one closer to home.

Here:
License to Depart | Wizard Forums

There are various forms of the "license to Depart". You might read through this and possibly get some ideas that might be helpful.
Much of the content is a bit "Abrahamic". There may be some suggestions for "where" to send them that resonate with/for you though.

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Wannabewizard said,

What to do with it ?

Strong Vinegar has an amazing ability to "dissipate" residual etheric energy (among other things). It can prevent etheric materialization from occurring in a room for example. Setting some small shallow dishes with white vinegar around a space such as your bedroom is all it takes.
The stronger the percentage of Acetic acid in the vinegar the better. Store bought Vinegar is usually around 4% Acetic acid content, it will do
the job effectively! On the Plus side it also has a lot of domestic cleaning uses too!

 

[8Lou1]

ive noticed that words and actions that have meaning to you work best. so for me things go in the bin and then i also delete the bin. for me its short for 'left to saturn is a black hole where one can leave the universe'. and thats something i found in an text from an o9a member. i checked it in the sense of aligning with the celestials/ planets and accredited spirits and it seems to be true in the sense that it works for me. when i would create the action it is like traveling tru space rising and falling like the lucifer the morning star as venus etc.

its in a sense also a 'giving back to god' the One who is above the skies while i say no thank you and bow. in this polite sense the outside world doesnt get touched only an internal explosion becomes like i have an exploding universe inside me, a sort of big bang. its like eating the universe it stays in the chakra at the belly levels and in the visual sense it taste like popping candy: wyrd but privately inside.

since you want it deleted it cant be stated clear otherwise one would still remember.

 

[Wannabewizard]

This is pretty cool. The knife happened to be stainless steel! A fit of frustration at feeling shitty. So when they dropped off I was like, oh, what the hell?
I have some concentrated European vinegar, nearly lab grade strength, needs diluting. Could stick that in a water pistol and and go ghost busting, or hold up the seance in the pub
Imagination has a large part to it of course. Launching nasties into the sun I though was good initiative. Kill it with fire! Maybe that's the wrong way. Fire signs like the sun.
Perhaps any planetary body would work?

While I think of it, consecrate a safety razor, cleansing soap and shave those connections off. Kind of a ritual washing, where the hairs are missing would remind you of the work done and plus it can't cut you.

I shall have a look at this 'license'. Probably works better than raging in the kitchen.

 

[Asteriskos]

Imagination has a large part to it of course. Launching nasties into the sun I though was good initiative. Kill it with fire! Maybe that's the wrong way. Fire signs like the sun.

If you can Visualize well, and also See Negative Energy, you can indeed Burn bad things with Fire, like the ends of "energy draining cords"!

Strong, Direct Sun Light also plays hell with Dense Etheric Energy, though I see that it tends to Raise the Vibrational Level somewhat upward which can be seen as "Dissipating" it. That's one reason why "sick people" often benefit from "Fresh Air and Sunshine", something "allopathic" medicine often seems to overlook?

 

[SHUMA-GORATH]

You can send negative entities to those that worship them

The chink in the armor is if they are degenerates.

To give you a very generalized/broad example is the New World Order. These people that run everything make deals with entities.

Let's say these New World Order types sacrifice the innocent to gain favor with said entities

You can flip the table on them by sacrificing the degenerates. It works because they made pacts with these entities/demons/etc

You are essentially sacrificing the degenerates by throwing them into hell so they will be consumed by the demons they worship

 

[Sabbatius]

I am trying to figure out exactly what you mean by Negative Entities.
If you are referring to the little admixtures of thoughtforms and unintentional releases of energy created by the Karens of the universe, simple ritual cleansing usually takes care of these.
If you are referring to daemons, as in the evoked entities of the Solomonic Arte, I would agree with what Asterikos stated and implement a

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If you are referring to actual attacks from a Malevolent Chthonic Entity or Shadow Form, seriously

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[ArchonLynx]

use those for combat charms or curse objects to use in the future concentrate on a object and direct it in and seal it with the triangle smaller the object the better for space wise

my method.. if you don't use them bury them and hope no one finds them lol....

 

[WZRD_N17]

Good day, Honestly ,I find research of entities fascinating. I not to sure where I stand in which school of thought is right or wrong when it comes to defining what a negative entity is. Some people believe they are entities that exist in the astral. Others believe its causeD by the demiurge while others believe we create these entities. the latter seemed to work for me though.

If the latter theorem is true ,it means we can create our own entities. From personal experience in overcoming the "succubus" entities that trigger a porn urge. I created my pet entity called Tiger. I won't go to deep about it but I realized it's your personally choice on where those negative entities go and how you deal with them. Personally I instruct tiger to consume them because I realized triggers of negative entities will never go away but how you perceive them dictate how you react.

Me personally, Tiger eats them(I'm Vengeful ) for energy(the mental model:TIGER works subconsciously behind the scene)o continue to exist without using me(conscious mental effort) as an energy source. Others may choose to send them to the underworld. Others may use routine cleanses to deal with the issue but I personally find that exhausting because you constantly use energy and willpower to deal with it . The main lesson though is that you CHOOSE what WORKS for YOU.

 

[Dascent]

I share my perspective as it is and related to the subject (title) of the topic.
Where to send negative entites (and other adventures)?

Distilled version, I always use "under divine grace" and "send" to earth.
Under Divine Grace because it is not related to a specific religion, dogma or cult.
Divinity is the Source of All There Is therefore no biblical ties, no names, no scriptures no misinterpretations, manipulations or what have you.
We exist, Existence itself is, therefore Divinity.
Under Divine Grace is also used to bypass karmic debt because in some situations a "negative" experience with a "negative polarity entity" is an (conscious or not) agreement at soul level (or physical level) where the soul/ego agrees to experience a very specific challenge where a "negative entity" assists. Various reasons so don't ask why.
If the "Under Divine Grace" is not used, then a 3rd party interferes with one's Free Will and karma is created.
No angels, no demons, no daemons, no spirits are allowed to mess up with Free Will.

Why earth?
Because Gaia, consciousness of our planet also has an agreement, we take care of earth, she takes care of us (lately we kind of skipped our job but it's ok). Gaia, earth energy is used to ground our energy and not only change negative into positive (useful energy for humans) but also recharges our "depleted batteries" -- hug a tree, walk barefoot.
Most powerful circle of protection is made on the ground, crystals are also named the bones of mother earth so why not use the familiar power of earth...

This makes sense for me, this seems to work for some, doesn't require a specific religion because "all who walk the earth are on Gaia's domain and must obey the laws of this reality" also the feedback, the energy which comes back from the earth is knowledge --- energy can't created nor destroyed only converted or transformed.

 

[Asteriskos]

I share my perspective as it is and related to the subject (title) of the topic.
Where to send negative entites (and other adventures)?

Distilled version, I always use "under divine grace" and "send" to earth.
Under Divine Grace because it is not related to a specific religion, dogma or cult.
Divinity is the Source of All There Is therefore no biblical ties, no names, no scriptures no misinterpretations, manipulations or what have you.
We exist, Existence itself is, therefore Divinity.
Under Divine Grace is also used to bypass karmic debt because in some situations a "negative" experience with a "negative polarity entity" is an (conscious or not) agreement at soul level (or physical level) where the soul/ego agrees to experience a very specific challenge where a "negative entity" assists. Various reasons so don't ask why.
If the "Under Divine Grace" is not used, then a 3rd party interferes with one's Free Will and karma is created.
No angels, no demons, no daemons, no spirits are allowed to mess up with Free Will.

Why earth?
Because Gaia, consciousness of our planet also has an agreement, we take care of earth, she takes care of us (lately we kind of skipped our job but it's ok). Gaia, earth energy is used to ground our energy and not only change negative into positive (useful energy for humans) but also recharges our "depleted batteries" -- hug a tree, walk barefoot.
Most powerful circle of protection is made on the ground, crystals are also named the bones of mother earth so why not use the familiar power of earth...

This makes sense for me, this seems to work for some, doesn't require a specific religion because "all who walk the earth are on Gaia's domain and must obey the laws of this reality" also the feedback, the energy which comes back from the earth is knowledge --- energy can't created nor destroyed only converted or transformed.

I agree, there are too many benefits to being "Grounded", and being able to send / divert various energies to ground, to contemplate!
Any magician who is not Grounded and Centered, at least most of the time, is Off Balance, Less Effective than they should be, and without a Doubt needs to revisit the Basics, IMO! Ambient negative energy certainly can be safely grounded, arguably the Best place for it!

"Entities", though should to be guided / sent to a "vibratory level" that resonates with their essential nature, "whatever" that may be, because when "discarnate", Thoughts are Things! When a "discarnate" entity is caught up in an environment that doesn't "resonate" with it, it's Not Having a Good Time! The reason an entity can exist outside it's "own habitation" is because Something is supplying "vibratory energy" it can resonate with, likely some person who may not even realize it. The phrase: "Depart to thine own habitation" while a bit archaic, attempts to encapsulate this.This is a subject that deserves it's own Tutorial, it's not a Simplistic topic to try to discuss, because everyone has thoughts, opinions and experiences of their own. Also, there are many different ways to essentially say the Same Thing?

 

[WZRD_N17]

i love this,please elaborate further on grounding...any books related to the subject?

I agree, there are too many benefits to being "Grounded", and being able to send / divert various energies to ground, to contemplate!
Any magician who is not Grounded and Centered, at least most of the time, is Off Balance, Less Effective than they should be, and without a Doubt needs to revisit the Basics, IMO! Ambient negative energy certainly can be safely grounded, arguably the Best place for it!

"Entities", though should to be guided / sent to a "vibratory level" that resonates with their essential nature, "whatever" that may be, because when "discarnate", Thoughts are Things! When a "discarnate" entity is caught up in an environment that doesn't "resonate" with it, it's Not Having a Good Time! The reason an entity can exist outside it's "own habitation" is because Something is supplying "vibratory energy" it can resonate with, likely some person who may not even realize it. The phrase: "Depart to thine own habitation" while a bit archaic, attempts to encapsulate this.This is a subject that deserves it's own Tutorial, it's not a Simplistic topic to try to discuss, because everyone has thoughts, opinions and experiences of their own. Also, there are many different ways to essentially say the Same Thing?

 

[Asteriskos]

I agree, there are too many benefits to being "Grounded", and being able to send / divert various energies to ground, to contemplate!
Any magician who is not Grounded and Centered, at least most of the time, is Off Balance, Less Effective than they should be, and without a Doubt needs to revisit the Basics, IMO! Ambient negative energy certainly can be safely grounded, arguably the Best place for it!

"Entities", though should to be guided / sent to a "vibratory level" that resonates with their essential nature, "whatever" that may be, because when "discarnate", Thoughts are Things! When a "discarnate" entity is caught up in an environment that doesn't "resonate" with it, it's Not Having a Good Time! The reason an entity can exist outside it's "own habitation" is because Something is supplying "vibratory energy" it can resonate with, likely some person who may not even realize it. The phrase: "Depart to thine own habitation" while a bit archaic, attempts to encapsulate this.This is a subject that deserves it's own Tutorial, it's not a Simplistic topic to try to discuss, because everyone has thoughts, opinions and experiences of their own. Also, there are many different ways to essentially say the Same Thing?

I forgot to add that I see a difference between "ambient negative energy", and a "Spirit, Entity", et al. When you "ground" energy, you are not "usually" dealing with an "entity", per se, but raw energy of whatever vibratory level, frequency, etc., "Energy is Energy".

An "Entity or Spirit" though is sometimes defined as "Organized Consciousness"!

It's debatable if Grounding even "Artificial Servitors", etc. is an "ethical" thing to do, any I've created are decommissioned and withdrawn into myself when they've fulfilled their purpose.

Not so with "naturally" occurring entities though, unless one fancies "possession" a Good Thing, and Some Do!
So, it's best to send them back where they came from, by depriving them of the means to be "Here"!
This topic has Lots of nuances. Frankly, it's fascinating!

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i love this,please elaborate further on grounding...any books related to the subject?

Grounding is "Willing" energy to flow to Ground, that is the the "Planetary Body's Auric Field". Our Creatrix, of which everything is part of upon Gaia / Earth! When energy is "grounded", it's merged with the much greater planetary field, essentially purified and repurposed.
With practice you will be able to Feel this and hopefully See it well.

When we are Grounded, we can also Draw energy from her reserve as well, to Balance Our Field, not Too Much, not Too Little, Perfect Balance, so it's a Vital technique to have, I say Mandatory for "Magical Beings" to master, it's Simple Too! There's a related technique called "Centering", which I always practice simultaneously. Once mastered they don't take long.

There are lots of books that will explain these techniques with various nuances, here are two that Work!
Both below are available in the WF library.

Psychic Witch - Mat Auryn USE this book, don't merely read it, DO the exercises! Hands down my First Choice!!!

Real Sorcery - Jason Miller Different paradigm, Jason is well, Jason! Has some killer techniques, but wants to "Hellenize" you!

Hope this helps!

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WZRD_N17 said:

i love this,please elaborate further on grounding...

The term "Grounding" is borrowed from physics and refers to "electrical grounding", sending an electrical current to "Earth Ground", the planetary body for safe dissipation. The principle are analagous though!

 

[Wannabewizard]

I have used the term negative entities to describe a lot of energy forms to keep deliberately simple, to try to inform others I meet without them freaking out. Trying to describe differences to people is wearying. And I am still deciding for myself anyway what's what. Same goes for Demon/Daemon. Not all the same.

The word 'Demon' is a trigger to most. It's not the word that bothers me, it's the cold dead energy, and life sucking horror.
I guess if it's predominately conscious negative energy, it could be called a Demon?

If you grounded an earth spirit, would that make it happy

Interestingly, this does confirm my suspicions about what the 'best' way to deal with negative thought forms being flung from the hapless unconscious, (mad neighbor) and that is reflection, not to reflect them directly at the unintentional sender, but to ground like a lightening discharge.

And while I think about it, a lavender soap shower with intention works really well for removing general invisible gunge. The shower drain becomes the drain of the universe and is gone forever.

For me, I really need a visual to show a new concept. Was struggling with what grounding and centering looked and felt like for years, that and popping out the top of my head for so long being massively un-grounded (charged?) made it all the more difficult.

 

[Asteriskos]

If you grounded an earth spirit, would that make it happy

No, elemental beings have "Organized Consciousness", we don't want to Ground Beings, only Raw Energy. Energy is Energy, regardless of "vibrational level". So No, It wouldn't make Me happy either!

Interestingly, this does confirm my suspicions about what the 'best' way to deal with negative thought forms being flung from the hapless unconscious, (mad neighbor) and that is reflection, not to reflect them directly at the unintentional sender, but to ground like a lightening discharge.

A lightning discharge is an excellent analogy: A Massive Difference in potential between + & - is "Instantly" neutralized to Ground, Mother Earth!
Presto, no difference, neutralized!

Yes, you certainly can send any kind of energy to Ground level. You would "direct / redirect" it from where ever it Is, to Ground. Using your Will and Visualization / Imagination to do it. Once grounded the energy will be "transformed" to a neutral state, (no longer negative) and made available for reuse / repurposed. It can then be Drawn upon to balance an energy "deficit" for example, make any sense? This isn't "wishful thinking", this is an Act of Magic/k! Though it's a Simple and Useful one! I'm going to say here that though this is a "simple" act to accomplish, it Helps if one can Visualize, and See Energy! We want to Move Energy by an "intentional" act of Will. Worth Learning How to Do! There are Lots of resources available to learn How to Do this. I suggest "Psychic Witch" by Mat Auryn, but, ya gotta Do the Work if ya wanna Work Magic/k!
There are No Shortcuts, that's why we don't number in the Billions?

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Wannabewizard said,

"Was struggling with what grounding and centering looked and felt like for years."

Okay, I forgot to mention the book "Psychic Witch", and the follow up, "Mastering Magick", Both have "Visuals" for the acts of "Grounding and Centering". If I were teaching someone in person I'd use the ones from "Psychic Witch"!
You really have to do this for yourself, no one else can "feel" it for you! The Visuals though are Good ones, hope that Helps!

 

[Dascent]

Just sharing this idea and leve... only if you knew how much of an effort do "negative entities" have to push and struggle in order to be at service, to serve the Light, you will be amazed...
From a much higher perspective, a negative energy is human's projection, human's own energy filtered through a negative belief.
Take magic for example, the potency, the power of manifestation of a spell is no more powerful than its caster's belief because... "where focus goes, energy flows".
My perspective is not meant to invalidate anyone's beliefs or practices but to plant the seed of another perspective.
The Source of All There Is is a quantum field, within that field, everything exists, evil, good, love, fear, god, gods, goddesses, angels, demons, polarities, dualities, trinities... All There Is can be experienced only within All There Is and there is a Source of that All Which Is and carries no name as it can be encapsulated into itself more than the aspects we create for it, namely, gods, goddesses, demons, angels, archangels, archons all fractalized consciousness and all reflections created by itself.
Simply create what needs to be created by empowering it through though, word and action.
And if you need more complexity to add to your diverse experience, by all means, add as much ideas as possible and sort them out as needed.
At the end of all this, simply have fun... do something good, do something bad, but do it with passion because passion is you aligning with yourself.

Let me know if it makes sense to any of you...
Greetings to you all, off to my projects....

 

[OberonFromTheHills]

From a witchcraft perspective, you can trap them in something like a natural poppet and throw it in a river.

If you are more into energy and high magick, you can open an hexagram as a portal and send them into it.

From a more animistic way you can work with your doorways and send the spirit into another place.