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Ahh yes the good old "if you were as enlightened as me, then you'd tolerate me being an asshole." If you think that me simply pointing to your evident behaviour is the same as needing to be coddled, then perhaps you're just as stupid as you are delusional.
I said nothing about toleration. If you wish to be reactive towards some words on a computer screen, knock yourself out. That will advance your esoteric development.
I'll keep expressing unpopular views in blunt terms. My rhetoric is well-chosen as people have reverence for things that disempower them.
I said nothing about toleration. If you wish to be reactive towards some words on a computer screen, knock yourself out. That will advance your esoteric development.
I'll keep expressing unpopular views in blunt terms. My rhetoric is well-chosen as people have reverence for things that disempower them.
Those are not unpopular views though. Well, they maybe are here, but outside of this rather eccentric environment they're the most derivative, mainstream, mass-produced, middle-of-the-road slop takes wrapped very thinly in some occult lingo that even by itself stinks of new age.
I said nothing about toleration. If you wish to be reactive towards some words on a computer screen, knock yourself out. That will advance your esoteric development.
I'll keep expressing unpopular views in blunt terms. My rhetoric is well-chosen as people have reverence for things that disempower them.
Once again you want to move the argument towards my own personal esoteric development. I didn't engage with you on this front and I don't intend to, as I see absolutely no value in talking about esoteric matters with you whatsoever. Your argument is once again "you're not as enlightened as I am, and not agreeing with me is hindering your development."
Feel free to express your views in your "well-chosen rhetoric", since rhetoric is clearly the only thing available to you. But 'reverence for things that disempower them'? Don't make me fucking laugh. You don't actually believe this shit do you?
The same way you can't engage an intellectually above-average snail. I also love how you always seem to just pick a snippet to snark at instead of actually acknowledging what's being said to you. Such a neat defense mechanism, you don't ever have to actually engage in anything that would threaten you ego if you train yourself to perceive such vacuous responses as valid argument. I'd say I can't imagine you older than sixteen, but there might be some teens here that are wiser than you I wouldn't like to insult with such comparison.
How can people be disempowered by religion LMAO ? If religion was all so bad and disrespectful to the occult powers, would we discuss it in the Religion, Spirituality and Meditation forum that we have? Of course not.
Where is the so-called record of humans that have tried the approach of integrating religions in their esoteric practice and they failed? Have you forgotten about those names in the esoteric world?
Helena Blavatsky - Blended Hermeticism and Kabbalah with extensive concepts from Hinduism and Buddhism (karma, reincarnation and Ascended Masters). Founded Theosophy, a movement that has global reach and recognition and laid the groundwork for the New Age movement.
Emanuel Swedenborg A scientist turned mystic who claimed to converse with angels. He sought to recalibrate the Christian faith, framing a rationalized Christian theology based on a spiritual interpretation of the Bible. He succeeded into founding the Church of the New Jerusalem, and his writings influenced William Blake, Carl Jung, and Arthurt Conan Doyle
Éliphas Lévi - Former Catholic seminary student who integrated Roman Catholic imagery, theology, and the Jewish Kabbalah into ceremonial magic. He achieved the goal of being the founder of modern occultism and modern occult thought, resurrected the Tarot as a magical tool, and his synthesis provided the framework / blueprint for Victorian magical orders like the Golden Dawn.
Giovanni Pico della Mirandola - A brilliant scholar who integrated Jewish Kabbalah and Hermeticism into orthodox Christianity, arguing that magic and Kabbalah were the ultimate proofs of Christ’s divinity. He achieved what is known as intellectual immortality, establishing Christian Kabbalah as a school of Renaissance thought, shifting European philosophy toward an open validation of human potential.
Dion Fortune - Co-mapped modern psychology with the Jewish Qabalah and Esoteric Christianity, actively blending goddess worship with Christian mysticism. Her society of The Inner Light still operates today and texts like the Mystical Qabalah bridged the gap between psychoanalysis and ritual magic.
William Buttler Yeats - Fused his esoteric practices with Celtic mythology, Christianity, and the Hindu Upanishads to build a personal syncretic faith centered on a "Unity of Being". He achieved the largest literary acclaim. He used his occult background to fuel his literary creativity and won the Nobel Prize in Literature.
I've stated how it is disempowering in various replies on this forum. You can go read those, but in brief, the 'activation' of the hidden self where true power and transformation lies is in opposition to the generic energies/egregores of religions. As I said, these religiously-infused aspects are Self-alienating and are a very poor substitute for what lies within.
Where is the so-called record of humans that have tried the approach of integrating religions in their esoteric practice and they failed? Have you forgotten about those names in the esoteric world?
I've stated how it is disempowering in various replies on this forum. You can go read those, but in brief, the 'activation' of the hidden self where true power and transformation lies is in opposition to the generic energies/egregores of religions. As I said, these religiously-infused aspects are Self-alienating and are a very poor substitute for what lies within.
I'm not responding to an AI generated list. People can't even think for themselves... And a conwoman like Blavatasky to boot?
Religiously-manipulated people very often don't like my views. Nothing surprising in your whining there.
You can call it stellar logic... astral logic, whatever floats your boat. It is actual logic based on evidence.
In what path are you working on to at least know to not bother you anymore with things that you first called "religious garbage", then "Self-alienating" and what else you said? Are you working with the Qliphoth?
As for my list, I know it half AI, as it would have taken me quite the time to research all those names and their achievements and I summarized things on my own as well in order both to be original and also to not flood the forum with AI slop. Thanks. I see that you do not like Helena Blatavasky, from my list... your choice... but what about the other names? Eliphas Levi? Dion Fortune? Giovanni Pico della Mirandola? Give your opinion on the other names I gave if you want?
Well yeah your basically caIIing them aII stupid and saying any reply by them is "whining"
No one wants to be caIIed stupid or completely dismissed. I'm eh so-so with reIigious views and I can stiII know that I wouldn't want to be caIIed that.
Go for the Iogic and explain your arguement instead of attacking the other side its a IogicaI faIIacy to simply attack the other side. What is your Iogic for the views you hoId?
ExpIaining that instead of going on the offensive aII the time couId probabIy heIp you save a Iot of time and headaches.
One aspect of real occult development is overcoming such things as taking personal affront. If you have a need to be coddled, you're neither going to grasp reality in its most subtle aspects nor for that matter be able to cope with what's coming down the pipeline.
That's curious indeed, because in your reply to my initial psychic prediction, you noted the war as fulfilling it lol go look at your own reply there. I made the prediction in November, and things quickly arrayed themselves, as I said things were fast approaching.
Your other reply here just listed everything anyone who reads news knows already, and climate change isn't on some very short timeline to cause societal crack up.
I'll also add that none of these spirits, ancestors, gods, god, guardian angels, loa, and all the rest gave a head's up that things were close to kicking off. It was only my psychic intuition. You'd think this would clue people in on something important, but no.
I'd say I can't imagine you older than sixteen, but there might be some teens here that are wiser than you I wouldn't like to insult with such comparison.
Yes... and many problems are about to come to a head and immanentize the eschaton, including climate destabilization , ocean ecology breakdown, permafrost meltdown , global water bankruptcy , economics crash, 'The Nerd Reich ' and the destruction of democracy , drawing new world borders, fighting for resources , space wars , data center bubble burst, AI threats , etc etc .
Well, I did see it but couldn't take it seriously as you'd missed some things that are obviously coming like magnetic pole reversal, mega solar flares and Cthulhu awakening from his aeons-long slumber beneath sunken R’lyeh ...
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Joking aside, sure there are general things we can do to prepare for possible upcoming scenarios depending on your mindset: some ppl might join a remote self-sustaining mountain zendo, some ppl might go down the survivalist route, some might focus on giving birth to the immortal foetus or making their peace with God, some ppl might berate the UN and go on pleasure cruises, some ppl might write for magazines like Noema to get ppl thinking, etc. My take (FWIW) is to stay location independent as much as possible: skills/work I can use globally, savings, legal access to multiple countries, health maintenance.
Beyond that, when the (literal or metaphorical) asteroid hits Earth, there's not a lot I can do about it. In any case, I suspect the end of the world is not the end of the world for a lot of ppl on here who aren't physicalists.
That's curious indeed, because in your reply to my initial psychic prediction, you noted the war as fulfilling it lol go look at your own reply there. I made the prediction in November, and things quickly arrayed themselves, as I said things were fast approaching.
Your other reply here just listed everything anyone who reads news knows already, and climate change isn't on some very short timeline to cause societal crack up.
I'll also add that none of these spirits, ancestors, gods, god, guardian angels, loa, and all the rest gave a head's up that things were close to kicking off. It was only my psychic intuition. You'd think this would clue people in on something important, but no.
Are you now claiming that my Aboriginal teachers here in australia and my ancestors have never observed how modern people and tech are ruining the climate balance ?
Now your narcissism has got to unbelievable heights !
Well, I did see it but couldn't take it seriously as you'd missed some things that are obviously coming like magnetic pole reversal, mega solar flares and Cthulhu awakening from his aeons-long slumber beneath sunken R’lyeh ...
Joking aside, sure there are general things we can do to prepare for possible upcoming scenarios depending on your mindset: some ppl might join a remote self-sustaining mountain zendo, some ppl might go down the survivalist route, some might focus on giving birth to the immortal foetus or making their peace with God, some ppl might berate the UN and go on pleasure cruises, some ppl might write for magazines like Noema to get ppl thinking, etc. My take (FWIW) is to stay location independent as much as possible: skills/work I can use globally, savings, legal access to multiple countries, health maintenance.
I do a mix of things sorta like that ... a good location and resources are important . My best move was to be born earlier and live through great times ... I'll be dead before the worst hits
Beyond that, when the (literal or metaphorical) asteroid hits Earth, there's not a lot I can do about it. In any case, I suspect the end of the world is not the end of the world for a lot of ppl on here who aren't physicalists.
Are you now claiming that my Aboriginal teachers here in australia and my ancestors have never observed how modern people and tech are ruining the climate balance ?
Your other reply here just listed everything anyone who reads news knows already, and climate change isn't on some very short timeline to cause societal crack up.
I predicted trouble was fast approaching, and the war kicked off 90 days later. Having an observation that humans are undermining their own environment is qualitatively different.
You have an insistent bee in your bonnet about me now, but in your reply about my prediction of a fast approach you posted this right at the outbreak of the war-
Doomsaying serves one important purpose: there are actual dangers, which are real; but keeping people in waiting for fictional ones makes them tired and apathetic towards the real dangers of failing economy, ecology, social catasrophies - all of which are real, actual, factual, could be easily...
You vaguely predicted in November some type of ' vast societal crack up' .
And then when I say on March 1 USA and Israel attacked Iran . . . 4 months later you are claiming you predicted it and that means I supported your ' prediction ' .
I note you had to add brackets to what I said and then add extra after the quote marks to tie it into your 'prediction'
'Emotional' reactions are they ?
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First of all your 'prediction' was obscure and un-detailed ... vague ... ;in the air ' - several noted that , then you tried this ;
'' Resource depletion is obviously a problem...or would be if it wasn't already outstripped chronologically by climate change, ''
( which later above you claimed any one would know as its common knowledge )
then you shifted to this ;
''Thinking this is about illegal immigration is for the rubes. If it was, ICE would be swarming Texas which has a hell of a lot more than Minn does. This is about police state normalization.''
Then later - I posted this '' Last night might be relevant ...... when you guys further around the globe wake up ( and I mean from last nights sleep ) , you might get a surprise at the news .''
( I know its hard for you not to imagine it was all about you and supporting you .. except it wasn't )
THEN you decided this was your prediction and ran with the obvious outcome . Piggybacking on what I reported .
Now you claim I cannot comprehend that I was actually supporting your prediction
and now because I am not agreeing with your weird take on things I am having emotional reactions to what you write .
Ummmmm DUDE ! look at what the other posters in that thread wrote to you and what the other posters in this thread wrote to you . Its not just me ( or all of them ) , ya know .
Its just that they have all given up on you a lot earlier than I did , seeing the problem here ( with you , that is )
and now I will too , and leave you to yourself to rant, point , down look or whatever you feel makes you think you were 'right ' all along . You probably actually believe it yourself .
? If religion was all so bad and disrespectful to the occult powers, would we discuss it in the Religion, Spirituality and Meditation forum that we have? Of course not.
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