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So technically by your definition no one is vulgar or immature because loneliness does affect physical survival. It impacts health and affects physical survival. In 2023 the surgeon general issued an advisory about the impact of loneliness and how it affects health.
So getting into a group of friend literally impacts physical survival. Also as someone that had to suffer intense loneliness it did impact my health greatly so going out and trying to be part of a group was a literal survival strategy
So ... all humans , being of the order primates - who need and desire to live, not alone, not in herds but in 'extended family groups ' are declared by you to be immature and vulgar for doing so ?
Many don't have good relations with their parents or siblings, let alone extended family. I think it's a good idea to maintain good relations with and help extended family, but that has nothing to do with what I was talking about. And I don't care for evolutionary psychology.
Many convert to Islam in the west out of desires to belong to a group, for a sense of community, for social interaction, etc. Many are proud about being born into a particular community, family, etc and make it a part of their identity. This is what I was referring to.
So getting into a group of friend literally impacts physical survival. Also as someone that had to suffer intense loneliness it did impact my health greatly so going out and trying to be part of a group was a literal survival strategy
I did. I'm fine now. It took work and I got lucky because I had time to figure out who I was
Schopenhauer did not live today though. People are in time crisis. Solitude to be happy people first have to have time to understand yourself. People need resources and time too.
I know isolation. Pure isolation. No forums like this one to hold your hand. No one to hear when you are sad and no one around when your afriad. True isolation is terrifying. Especially to people. Don't believe me look up people trapped in solitary confinement and hear their first hand expierences.
If you want to try I don't recommend it but to try you'll literally have to even leave this space too. If we're going by your standards you technically don't need magic to live. I honestly hope you don't leave because true isolation is terrifying.
I will admit some solitude is good for the soul since it helps you find out who you are. But taken to the extreme for people. Its not fun. And it seems like your taking this to the extreme.
Only as much as required to thrive and obtain liberation from birth and death.
I will admit some solitude is good for the soul since it helps you find out who you are. But taken to the extreme for people. Its not fun. And it seems like your taking this to the extreme.
I have to work like everyone else, and I usually have only 3 hours available for other tasks. I think most people should make an effort to seek solitude after dealing with people, 50+ hours per week.
Many don't have good relations with their parents or siblings, let alone extended family. I think it's a good idea to maintain good relations with and help extended family, but that has nothing to do with what I was talking about.
It has everything to do with what you wrote . If you are 'talking about' something other than what you wrote , that seems obscure . However if you were thinking about something other than you wrote , that is understandable and it also makes my comment in response understandable .
I see ; you 'do not care ' for something which is your underlying material physical principle . That is going to create a lot of problems for you then .
One may as well declare ; 'I dont care for facts .'
Many convert to Islam in the west out of desires to belong to a group, for a sense of community, for social interaction, etc. Many are proud about being born into a particular community, family, etc and make it a part of their identity. This is what I was referring to.
Its still unclear ,
you made a big point in your post of declaring and defining ' ALL '
but I can suppose what you mean ; if I do understand you , one example might be modern political nationalism , in a much more 'moved on' and expanded world ; a world were some are trying to maintain certain boundaries , while a wide range of diverse people already exist within those boundaries , where we are all intertwined and depend on each other .
I live in that state ; a cabin on the edge of a forest , a virtual hermitage ... but not really 'alone ' there are the many types of birds , pademelons* in the back yard and two ring tailed possums that sleep over my bed .
Now you seem to be referring to that process of solitude , meditation and introspection that is a mystical requiremnet and essential practice for development of self . Every tribe appreciates that as well as basic magical and religious instruction
I suggest you read up on that yourself to put noth sides of this issue in perspective and context .
I did. I'm fine now. It took work and I got lucky because I had time to figure out who I was
Schopenhauer did not live today though. People are in time crisis. Solitude to be happy people first have to have time to understand yourself. People need resources and time too.
I know isolation. Pure isolation. No forums like this one to hold your hand. No one to hear when you are sad and no one around when your afriad. True isolation is terrifying. Especially to people. Don't believe me look up people trapped in solitary confinement and hear their first hand expierences.
If you want to try I don't recommend it but to try you'll literally have to even leave this space too. If we're going by your standards you technically don't need magic to live. I honestly hope you don't leave because true isolation is terrifying.
I will admit some solitude is good for the soul since it helps you find out who you are. But taken to the extreme for people. Its not fun. And it seems like your taking this to the extreme.
To become a man , here with the indigenous tradition , you must pass though that . The trained youth get sent out into the wilderness , not just to experience and survive this , but they go out naked and start from scratch ; make weapons, hunt and find food , make shelter , and use their knowledge to survive materially and spiritually .
My attempt was a wake up call ! It happened to coincide with a natural weather disaster and a case of food poisoning ... a scary and unpleasant experience .
Only as much as required to thrive and obtain liberation from birth and death.
I have to work like everyone else, and I usually have only 3 hours available for other tasks. I think most people should make an effort to seek solitude after dealing with people, 50+ hours per week.
To become a man , here with the indigenous tradition , you must pass though that . The trained youth get sent out into the wilderness , not just to experience and survive this , but they go out naked and start from scratch ; make weapons, hunt and find food , make shelter , and use their knowledge to survive materially and spiritually .
