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I note you had to add brackets to what I said and then add extra after the quote marks to tie it into your 'prediction'
lol because you were referencing the war that just started in your post. duh?
'' Resource depletion is obviously a problem...or would be if it wasn't already outstripped chronologically by climate change, ''
Yes, and I also said climate change was being outstripped by political/economic considerations...which is precisely the case...and societies turn into police states without cracking up, so that was an ancillary comment.

lol anyway nothing was going on that would indicate a fast approach of societal crack-up in november when I got my psychic warning and stated it. Unlike others and their subjective little mystical feelings, I've proven myself repeatedly.

btw What did your guru crowley ever predict? I recall according to the book of the law there was supposed to be global turmoil in the 1990s. lol that didn't pan out.
 

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btw What did your guru crowley ever predict? I recall according to the book of the law there was supposed to be global turmoil in the 1990s. lol that didn't pan out.
"I am the warrior lord of the 40's, the 80's cower before me and are abased."

Police states are awesome. Go to Monaco or UAE. Safe, clean, fun, with proud happy people.

"Climate change" is BS. Science is mostly BS too, so don't bother with those retorts.

Five or ten years from now this thread's gonna be funny.
 

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Religiously-manipulated people very often don't like my views. Nothing surprising in your whining there.
I don't care about your views enough to like or dislike them. I don't like your juvenile tone.
 

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lol because you were referencing the war that just started in your post. duh?

That was obvious ... duh . So what if I mentioned it ? I never said 'Oh look its your vague and un described 'predicition' come true ! I was referencing it to the bulk of the conversation that didnt include your claims ... can you comprehend that sometimes people talk about things that YOU are not the center of attention in ?



Yes, and I also said climate change was being outstripped by political/economic considerations...which is precisely the case...and societies turn into police states without cracking up, so that was an ancillary comment.

lol anyway nothing was going on that would indicate a fast approach of societal crack-up in november when I got my psychic warning and stated it. Unlike others and their subjective little mystical feelings, I've proven myself repeatedly.

And you see a societal crack up occurring now do you ? Do you know how many fuel crisis we have had ? How many wars have been and are going on and what their effects have been and are still ?

Society still chugging along though isnt it . Where is your 'vast crack up ' ?

Your narcissism is forcing you to clutch at straws to try and prove yourself right and everyone else wrong ( 'everyone else' being the other posers in these two threads you are claiming 'proof' of your 'awesome powers' of being 'beyond everything' )

btw What did your guru crowley ever predict? I recall according to the book of the law there was supposed to be global turmoil in the 1990s. lol that didn't pan out.

Now you are really off the rails

What on earth has Crowley got to do with it and why , all of a sudden are you claiming He is my Guru ?

As you do , you divert when cornered and the wild accusations and insults come out .

and your 'recalling ' about the Book of the Law claiming 'global turmoil' in the 1990 s is another self projection you make up so you can discount it and somehow claim ... what ? That you are better than The Book of the Law ? :D

- I checked on your fake claim with AI ... here is the result ;

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explicitly predicted massive, violent future global turmoil.
Written by Aleister Crowley in Cairo, Egypt, in 1904, the text announced the dawn of the Aeon of Horus (the Egyptian god of war and vengeance), which would violently overturn old religious systems and usher in an era of bloody global conflict...
Verse 7 and 8 explicitly claim, "I will give you a war-engine. With it ye shall smite the peoples; and none shall stand before you." Crowley later interpreted the invention of the military tank during World War I as the literal fulfillment of this "war-engine" prophecy...Crowley and subsequent
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viewed both World War I and World War II, alongside the rise of 20th-century totalitarian dictatorships, not as historical anomalies, but as the precise, catastrophic global upheavals predicted by the text to cleanse the old Aeon ''

So it was apparently the two world wars ! That was obvious ! and unlike your 'prediction' .

'' Aleister Crowley personally interpreted the outbreak and savagery of both World War I and World War II not as senseless tragedies, but as the literal, necessary execution of the prophecies laid out in The Book of the Law.''

That is how the AUTHOR himself saw it . But oif course YOU know better , hmmmmm ?

'' By the late 1930s, Crowley saw the rise of totalitarian dictatorships (such as Nazi Germany and Stalinist Russia) and the subsequent outbreak of World War II as the next phase of cosmic evolution. ... ''

I even asked AI specifically about your claims ;

'' Does any prophesy in the book relate to the 1990s?


No verse in
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explicitly mentions the 1990s by date.''

- no doubt you will respond to this with more ridiculous narcissistic jugglery .

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In case you haven't noticed, we are approaching a cliff that will shake societies to their foundations.
In that case, you might want to work on your social skills.

Social skills are valuable in disaster situations, when desperate people are deciding who to eat first.

Learning to do magick might also be helpful.

:sneaky::whistle::p
 

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That was obvious ... duh . So what if I mentioned it ? I never said 'Oh look its your vague and un described 'predicition' come true ! I was referencing it to the bulk of the conversation that didnt include your claims ... can you comprehend that sometimes people talk about things that YOU are not the center of attention in ?





And you see a societal crack up occurring now do you ?
Yes, it is very much hastened (due to decisions made over the last year) as opposed to the slower trends like climate change



Now you are really off the rails

What on earth has Crowley got to do with it and why , all of a sudden are you claiming He is my Guru ?
lol You're a self-proclaimed thelemite. In colloquial English the word 'guru' fits here.

and your 'recalling ' about the Book of the Law claiming 'global turmoil' in the 1990 s is another self projection you make up so you can discount it and somehow claim ... what ? That you are better than The Book of the Law ? :D
80s, not 90s. Many thelemites were looking at the 1980s as the potential for nuclear war due to that 'channeled' book, which I admit I didn't memorize word for word lol

- I checked on your fake claim with AI ... here is the result ;
I'm not responding to AI slop. Can't you think for yourself? (as you're a follower of a religion, I know the answer to that)
 

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Thats totally confused garbage . Its YOU claiming I have a guru and I 'follow a religion' not me . Even if I did , it doesnt make you Wizardforum's Nostradamus .

It just makes you a massive egotistical failure !

Your tactics so far ; a mess of fake claims , things that you made up and somehow think they are valid or make a point , made up 'mudslinging' that somehow you think validates your 'prediction' ability , your refusal to look at sources ( that carry VALID REFERENCES ) that dispute what you claim.

Quite the philosophical debater aren't you ? :D

Lets not forget this one either

You ; '' What did your guru crowley ever predict? I recall according to the book of the law there was supposed to be global turmoil in the 1990s.''

I proved you wrong and you ;

'' 80s, not 90s. ''

You are just sinking further into your own quicksand as you go along .

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lol I typed 90's instead of 80's, who cares? the point stands-

"I am the warrior lord of the 40's, the 80's cower before me and are abased."- book of the 'slaw

The head of the OTO, Karl Germer interpreted the book of the law as meaning nuclear war between the us and soviets. And he was very far from the only thelemite to do so, and that went on for 30 years, with thelemites shivering during the 1980s because of that 80s passage their heroin-addict guru wrote..

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Crowley's own interpretation of a tank being the 'war engine' in the book of the 'slaw was obviously just an attempt to cram some prescience into the text, as 'none shall stand before you.' is rather more pointing to utterly destructive powers than a simple tank. And it obviously doesn't fit into a nuclear bomb...a bomb is not an engine

So now that I've educated you on your own little religious/occult group, you can indulge in some more whining about me lol
 

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See... you cant help yourself, going way off your own topic to discredit some other 'prediction' that you claim I have some belief or investment in , which I dont . I dont see how in any way that supports your claims at predicting something yourself.

But no doubt, somehow, that made you feel better and more smug about yourself . I suppose that is the main aim here .

I take it as you also not being able to help yourself , regardless of the subject being connected or not, to do your usual ; mock derision and somehow thinking that boosts yourself or your own validity .

And now , you have revealed more than enough of your nature to identify, by your behavior here , what is actually going on magically with yourself .

And since you invited my diagnoses on you above , I shall comply .


First off its very obvious you dont like, mock and deride anything connected to religion . You try to find what you think are weaknesses in people and attempt to make them feel guilty or bad about that . You claim prediction and 'special kowledge ' but cant prove or back that up , instead divert , mock and revile .

Now let's look at the very valid work of Dr Wilson Van Dusen , a psychiatrist that treated patients and wrote the paper '' The Presence of Spirits in Madness '.

Now the point of Dr VanDusen's work is that it does not matter if these dynamics are seen as 'good and bad spirits' OR 'good and bad hallucinations' the same rules, and behaviors and classifications exist between them internally , regardless of the labels put on them .

Let's look at the 'bad spirits' or the 'bad hallucinations' category :

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'' In my dialogues with patients I learned of two orders of experience, borrowing from the voices themselves, called the higher and the lower order. Lower order voices are as though one is dealing with drunken bums at a bar who like to tease and torment just for the fun of it. They will suggest lewd acts and then scold the patient for considering them. They find a weak point of conscience and work on it interminably. For instance one man heard voices teasing him for three years over a ten-cent debt he had already paid. They call the patient every conceivable name, suggest every lewd act, steal memories or ideas right out of consciousness, threaten death, and work on the patient's credibility in every way. For instance they will brag that they will produce some disaster on the morrow and then claim honor for one in the daily paper. They suggest foolish acts .... The vocabulary and range of ideas of the lower order is limited, but they have a persistent will to destroy. They invade every nook and cranny of privacy, work on every weakness and credibility, claim awesome powers, lie, make promises and then undermine the patient's will. They never have a personal identity though they accept most names or identities given them. They either conceal or have no awareness of personal memories. .... To make matters worse they hold out promises to patients and even give helpful sounding advice only to catch the patient in some weakness. Even with the patient's help I found the lower order difficult to relate to because of their disdain for me as well as the patient.

The limited vocabulary and range of ideas of the lower order is striking. A few ideas can be repeated endlessly.
One voice just said "hey" for months while the patient tried to figure out what "hey" or "hay" was meant. Even when I was supposedly speaking to an engineer that a woman heard, the engineer was unable to do any more arithmetic than simple sums and multiplication the woman had memorized. The lower order seems incapable of sequential reasoning. Though they often claim to be in some distant city they cannot report more than the patient sees, hears, or remembers. They seem imprisoned in the lowest level of the patient's mind, giving no real evidence of a personal world or any higher order thinking or experiencing.

All of the lower order are irreligious or anti-religious. Some actively interfered with the patients' religious practices
. Most considered them to be ordinary living people, ... Like many, this particular hallucination claimed to be Jesus Christ, but his bragging and argumentativeness rather gave him away as of the lower order. ... ''


- no doubt you will attack and treat this like you do everything else , that does not matter as I did not put this here for you but for anyone that comes along and reads this thread and wonders what the hell is wrong with you .

I leave it up to them to make any valid comparisons and to observe the curious phenomena present in you .
 

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Since 2017, I have heard of various ways of doomsaying that "The World will end", "the asteroid X is going to hit the Earth".

lol, I've been clocking this since the 90s, and use this same exact logic with regard to UFO disclosure and conspiracy theories. Real conspiracies, are rarely hidden, and do eventually come to light. Snowden, Epstein, etc. Aline bodies in underground tanks at Area 51? The world ending this week or the next? lol, ok. Sure.
 

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lol, I've been clocking this since the 90s, and use this same exact logic with regard to UFO disclosure and conspiracy theories. Real conspiracies, are rarely hidden, and do eventually come to light. Snowden, Epstein, etc. Aline bodies in underground tanks at Area 51? The world ending this week or the next? lol, ok. Sure.
Indeed 💯! Real conspiracies eventually come up to light and somehow they are not conspiracies at that point, as there is... at least some concrete proof that sustains their existence.

But on the flip side, we still have people believing that there are underground alien bodies at Area 51.

Don't even get me started on how many people quote Baba Vanga or Nostradamus. It's been tiresome already, yet comically tragic.
 

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This is about societal crack-ups.
US 1861-65
USSR 1917-22
PRC 1949-66

The list goes on. "Society" cracks up all the time. Nothing you can do will prepare you for it besides leaving. And in all of these cases, large segments of "society" were doing fine, sipping their tea and laughing about it all.
 

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US 1861-65
USSR 1917-22
PRC 1949-66

The list goes on. "Society" cracks up all the time. Nothing you can do will prepare you for it besides leaving. And in all of these cases, large segments of "society" were doing fine, sipping their tea and laughing about it all.

It already happened ;

"The Great Society crack-up" refers to the rapid unraveling of President Lyndon B. Johnson’s ambitious domestic agenda in the late 1960s. Launched in 1964 with the goal of ending poverty and racial injustice, the Great Society ultimately splintered under the dual pressures of the Vietnam War, widespread urban unrest, and growing economic instability

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Indeed 💯! Real conspiracies eventually come up to light and somehow they are not conspiracies at that point, as there is... at least some concrete proof that sustains their existence.

But on the flip side, we still have people believing that there are underground alien bodies at Area 51.

Don't even get me started on how many people quote Baba Vanga or Nostradamus. It's been tiresome already, yet comically tragic.

Now we got our own one :)
 
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Hello, the doomsday bell rattler here again.

I think the public execution Trump has lined up fits quite neatly into the broader picture I see developing.

Wars almost always deliver several advantages at once for the people who start them. There’s the obvious money in weapons and later reconstruction, but more importantly the chance to shape what comes after the collapse. You get to define the new rules once the old ones are gone.

What I mean is that the Middle Eastern conflicts look less like isolated events and more like one long process of destabilization that eventually reaches the West. Create deeper resentment toward the West by wrecking countries and leaving them more brittle, then make it unusually easy for large numbers of young men from those places to move into Europe. At the same time, keep the old high-trust legal system that was never designed for this situation, and apply it unevenly: strict on the native population, much looser on the new arrivals. NGOs and special arrangements handle the logistics. The result is a growing population of young men who come from very different cultural norms around violence, authority, and women, settled across cities and towns.

Once the numbers are high enough, certain events can accelerate the tension. A high-profile execution of a known Islamist, an escalation with Iran, occasional “test” days of unrest, an “accidental” strike on a sensitive religious site, energy problems blamed on some external actor or rogue system. Then you watch how the situation develops.

In the medium term you also see the classic pattern of demographic change through voting. Parties that benefit from continued high immigration keep the status quo, while birth rates among the original population stay low. Housing and resources get stretched. At the same time, parts of the culture continue to push more revealing fashion and open hostility toward men in general, which doesn’t exactly calm things down when you have large groups of young men from societies with very different ideas about gender.

And the men who would actually be able to protect women, children, and the elderly are the ones most likely to be sent into whatever conflicts arise.

The rest, I suspect, continues through the usual human tendencies: many women are more agreeable and empathetic by nature, and decades of messaging have directed a lot of that empathy outward. Combined with social media and certain cultural fantasies, it creates less resistance to the changes than one might expect. None of this requires a grand conspiracy meeting; it can emerge from incentives, status, and short-term thinking.

Europe looks like the highest-value target for this kind of shift, but similar patterns appear in most other wealthy Western countries (Russia being the main exception). Each gets its own version of the demographic mix that creates the most friction. The new underclass is then protected by a moral framework that treats criticism of the process itself as the real crime. Political correctness plus Islamist attitudes make a very effective combination for silencing discussion about the practical results.

People who look at the longer trends see this as intentional or at least highly convenient for those who prefer a more controllable population. It is easier to govern when people have ten immediate problems, when they worry about personal safety while doing ordinary things, and when the old high-trust norms no longer match the new reality. The same pressure is being applied, in milder form, to places like Japan and South Korea.

The reaction to all of this is also part of the calculation. A period of low-level civil conflict fits neatly into a mix of external wars, internal disorder, and selective enforcement. What we are dealing with, in many cases, are cultural patterns that include high rates of female genital mutilation, arranged marriages at very young ages, and violence justified by tradition or religious rules. Pointing this out is still treated as the bigger offense in large parts of the West.

A small example from a few weeks ago near here: a man from one of those regions attacked a 14-year-old on the stairs at the train station, tried to gouge out an eye while saying he would kill him, and was later released after claiming he had mistaken the boy for someone else. According to reports, bystanders intervened. Whether this is an isolated case or part of a pattern is something people can judge for themselves.

Anyway, that’s only the visible part. The larger question is whether the direction is stable or whether the accumulated pressure eventually produces sharper reactions. History suggests the latter is more common once certain thresholds are crossed.
 

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Who said 'the world ending'? This is about societal crack-ups. Which is neither a conspiracy theory nor unprecedented with a glance at history.
I don't know if it is "not unprecedented." I do worry what happens if groups like 764, O9A and other such trash get big enough. That, I think, is something not seen yet in history.
 
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