Demonic presence in todays world.

[Audiolog Edu]

Neat conversation! I love Aurum Solis, and from my teen years in the 1980's grew up on that stuff. I still cherish my hardback books of 'Magical Philsophy' by Denning & Phillips. I always wondered why they were not more popular.

I think even we goetic magicians are beginning now to revist the benefits we got from 1980's to 1990's training systems like the A.S., Golden Dawn, even perverted Uncle Al's A.A. Getting straight with your "Above" before you go "Below" is a good idea.

And an aside, might I also recommend Zen meditation, along with non-visionary Theravada Buddhist practices. Sometimes you just need to turn the sublunar realm's laser-light and smoke show down, tell the spirits and demi-deities to fuck off because you're trying to meditate, and get right with unmediated consiouness as best we can.

RE: the drug violence. I am so sorry you have to experience this fucked up situation.. I'm a Mexican American - Anglo Texican and have spent a lot of time traveling in Mexico, which I adore. Not to get too conspiratorial but I would not blame Mexicans for the cartels. Before summoning Godzilla (the U.S. government ) to get involved , who usually just levels the entire city, some (but maybe not all) of these groups may be CIA cutouts. As the poor, maybe-assassinated journalist Gary Webb revealed, the CIA might be better thought of as the Cocaine Intelligence Agency heh! . There are no bigger legit demons than greed, corruption, and empire.

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Noy a days man I do blame Mexicans for the cartels, many mexicans have no education, they just want easy money with the cartels and we have a heavy Narco culture, with music, movies, videos on social media that glamourise the Narco in every single way posible, social media is a big propaganda machine, young mexicans fall for it, perhaps when it started it was a different deal but today is horrible because more and more people are joining the cartels, is like a trend, and of course they are at war with other cartels.

I do meditate, I have a few types of meditations, I do have actually 2 books about asian style meditations but I have not got to them, I am still studying the Aurum Solis.

 

[aviaf]

McCarthy’s model is useful, but I think it gets even more interesting if we see these forces as emergent phenomena rather than just outside invaders. At the individual scale, sure—there are parasitic entities and fragments that feed on addiction or despair. But when collective trauma and violence build up, they can crystallize into something larger: a psychic superorganism that lives through systems instead of just people.
Different traditions recognize this in their own way—Chaos Magick talks about egregores, Gnostics call them Archons, and some folk traditions describe land-spirits soured by blood and injustice. In every case, they’re not simply “demons arriving from elsewhere,” but something that grows out of us and then takes on a life of its own. That’s why they feel both alien and familiar at once.

Seen this way, the question isn’t whether Mexico (or any country) has been “possessed,” but how these parasitic structures are continually fed—and how magicians, in turn, can create counter-currents that weaken them. Exorcism at this scale isn’t about casting something out, but about changing the ecology so the parasite has nothing left to live on.

 

[Ziran]

Large, deep, and ancient demonic beings that express through society, government, land mass, or large groups of people, and basically drive the lemmings over the cliff. They will manoeuvre a large amount of people to behave in an extreme way that will end in war, murder, or suicides. They are sometimes intent on creating an environment that will suitable for them to live in the human world indefinitely.

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am from Mexico and I think we suffer from a Demonic infestation as said in N. 3 from Mc Carthy´s book, our country is filled with mass murders, and women being raped and later being murdered,

Sure. Why not? Call it whatever you want. Words chosen, labels, are as valuable as their utility. Nothing more, nothing less. If calling it demonic grants you comfort or is somehow useful? ... great! Otherwise, what's the point?

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BTW, can you imagine exorcism of entire Mexico?

Why not? It's no different than any other exorcism. Right-place, right-time, right-people, right-ritual, for the right reasons... then bind the captain of the beast who is misbehaving and threaten it until it recalls its minion.

 

[Morell]

Why not? It's no different than any other exorcism. Right-place, right-time, right-people, right-ritual, for the right reasons... then bind the captain of the beast who is misbehaving and threaten it until it recalls its minion.

Truth be told, I was imagining more of a field work, like dropping holy water using planes to put it on every place in the country or something like that.

Would be interesting to watch.

 

[Ziran]

Truth be told, I was imagining more of a field work, like dropping holy water using planes to put it on every place in the country or something like that.

Would be interesting to watch.

In that case... Invoke Ba'al P'ratzim, from 2 Sam 5. But, timing it is not easy.

ויבא דוד בבעל־פרצים ויכם שם דוד ויאמר פרץ יהוה את־איבי לפני כפרץ מים על־כן קרא שם־המקום ההוא בעל פרצים׃
And David came to Baal-Perazim, and David defeated them there, and said, The Lord has broken forth upon my enemies before me, as the breach of waters. Therefore he called the name of that place Baal-Perazim.

 

[Audiolog Edu]

McCarthy’s model is useful, but I think it gets even more interesting if we see these forces as emergent phenomena rather than just outside invaders. At the individual scale, sure—there are parasitic entities and fragments that feed on addiction or despair. But when collective trauma and violence build up, they can crystallize into something larger: a psychic superorganism that lives through systems instead of just people.
Different traditions recognize this in their own way—Chaos Magick talks about egregores, Gnostics call them Archons, and some folk traditions describe land-spirits soured by blood and injustice. In every case, they’re not simply “demons arriving from elsewhere,” but something that grows out of us and then takes on a life of its own. That’s why they feel both alien and familiar at once.

Seen this way, the question isn’t whether Mexico (or any country) has been “possessed,” but how these parasitic structures are continually fed—and how magicians, in turn, can create counter-currents that weaken them. Exorcism at this scale isn’t about casting something out, but about changing the ecology so the parasite has nothing left to live on.

What would you recommend me, I am attacked by an entity, this is why I make this threads, I am literally attacked by an evil spirit that I think needs exorcise and I use Quareia to strengten me spiritually.

 

[Morell]

I think that exorcism won't help, at least not long term. Think about it this way. If demon is a bully, exorcism just kicks it from your house. It might work that the demon will get tired of it, but if it is attached to you, it will keep returning endlessly, as it is the same as him having keys from he house and living there.

If there is more of them and it is common problem for you, you might do good to consider a bodyguard. Striking a both sides good deal can be of great help, because not everything spiritual going on around us is visible to us. If I remember correct, you work with demons, so making a deal with a demon to protect you in exchange for something you can easily keep doing a long time might be better solution than exorcism.

I got a protection deal with Archangel Azrael, the angel of death. Unusual choice, but it wasn't my choice. After having for some time problems with group of spirits, deal with Azrael made definitive peace. They kept coming for some more time, but I always find myself under Angel's wings, even when I'm not aware of any attack. Now they rarely appear. Yeah, I don't work with Abrahamic entities, but Azrael is exception... This bird has my highest respect.

 

[Audiolog Edu]

I think that exorcism won't help, at least not long term. Think about it this way. If demon is a bully, exorcism just kicks it from your house. It might work that the demon will get tired of it, but if it is attached to you, it will keep returning endlessly, as it is the same as him having keys from he house and living there.

If there is more of them and it is common problem for you, you might do good to consider a bodyguard. Striking a both sides good deal can be of great help, because not everything spiritual going on around us is visible to us. If I remember correct, you work with demons, so making a deal with a demon to protect you in exchange for something you can easily keep doing a long time might be better solution than exorcism.

I got a protection deal with Archangel Azrael, the angel of death. Unusual choice, but it wasn't my choice. After having for some time problems with group of spirits, deal with Azrael made definitive peace. They kept coming for some more time, but I always find myself under Angel's wings, even when I'm not aware of any attack. Now they rarely appear. Yeah, I don't work with Abrahamic entities, but Azrael is exception... This bird has my highest respect.

I dont think is a demon what is possessing me, I think it could be an astral parasite, because according to Mc Carthy it behaves almost human, and is not stopping me from living normally, it just distract me by touching me, and no sir I dont work with demons.

 

[Ziran]

If I remember correct, you work with demons

Me?

 

[FireBorn]

I dont think is a demon what is possessing me, I think it could be an astral parasite, because according to Mc Carthy it behaves almost human, and is not stopping me from living normally, it just distract me by touching me, and no sir I dont work with demons.

In my experience, parasitic entities are no joke, and definitely not something to take lightly. I dealt with a lifelong attachment, so I’m speaking from direct experience, not theory.

One thing I’ll say right away: demons get blamed all the time for behavior that’s actually parasitic. What you’re describing, human-like behavior, persistent distractions, low-level interference without full possession, that tracks way more with astral parasites than with any demon I’ve ever encountered or worked with.

That said, don’t try to handle this alone. Not without some real solid education and grounding. These things don’t just show up and scare you, they study you. They find the cracks. They use your own shadows against you: lust, addiction, fear, self-doubt, ego, anger, whatever’s already in your system, they’ll amplify it and feed off it. They feed and drain. They will do anything to stay and feed, including hiding or laying low for a few days to induce a false sense of security.

If you’re serious about clearing it, you’ll need more than willpower. You’ll need clarity, discipline, and maybe some backup. There are ways to deal with this, but it has to be done cleanly and without playing into its hands.

Don’t let it keep distracting you just because it isn’t “ruining your life.” The fact that it’s touching you at all? That’s already too far.

Here is the banishing that I used to start the slow starving process to remove a lifelong attachment. This took about a month and a half before it starved and left:

"I call back all parts of myself from where they've been fed upon. I name the parasitic current. You are not me. I revoke your access. My (name what it feeds on, lust, anger, fear, etc.) is sacred. My fire is mine. I now reclaim. Any pact, or contract, permission I ever gave - Conscious or not - is now null. I revoke all consent. I cast you out."

I read this multiple times a day and before bed every single day. I read it when I felt I needed it, and when I didnt feel I needed it. I read it a lot, out loud. Consent matters in the spiritual realm. You have to starve it through refusal. This declaration is where you begin.

Good luck.

 

[Audiolog Edu]

Tja

In my experience, parasitic entities are no joke, and definitely not something to take lightly. I dealt with a lifelong attachment, so I’m speaking from direct experience, not theory.

One thing I’ll say right away: demons get blamed all the time for behavior that’s actually parasitic. What you’re describing, human-like behavior, persistent distractions, low-level interference without full possession, that tracks way more with astral parasites than with any demon I’ve ever encountered or worked with.

That said, don’t try to handle this alone. Not without some real solid education and grounding. These things don’t just show up and scare you, they study you. They find the cracks. They use your own shadows against you: lust, addiction, fear, self-doubt, ego, anger, whatever’s already in your system, they’ll amplify it and feed off it. They feed and drain. They will do anything to stay and feed, including hiding or laying low for a few days to induce a false sense of security.

If you’re serious about clearing it, you’ll need more than willpower. You’ll need clarity, discipline, and maybe some backup. There are ways to deal with this, but it has to be done cleanly and without playing into its hands.

Don’t let it keep distracting you just because it isn’t “ruining your life.” The fact that it’s touching you at all? That’s already too far.

Here is the banishing that I used to start the slow starving process to remove a lifelong attachment. This took about a month and a half before it starved and left:

"I call back all parts of myself from where they've been fed upon. I name the parasitic current. You are not me. I revoke your access. My (name what it feeds on, lust, anger, fear, etc.) is sacred. My fire is mine. I now reclaim. Any pact, or contract, permission I ever gave - Conscious or not - is now null. I revoke all consent. I cast you out."

I read this multiple times a day and before bed every single day. I read it when I felt I needed it, and when I didnt feel I needed it. I read it a lot, out loud. Consent matters in the spiritual realm. You have to starve it through refusal. This declaration is where you begin.

Good luck.

Thank you sir, not a lot of people have helped me on this, and yes as I understand from Mc Carthy demons are a big problem, the one I have is more annoying than a real problem, I have read about starving this things, like no drug use and I must say I did used from tobacco, to alcohol and cannabis, now I dont, can they feed on anger? like it makes me angry some times.

 

[FireBorn]

Tja

Thank you sir, not a lot of people have helped me on this, and yes as I understand from Mc Carthy demons are a big problem, the one I have is more annoying than a real problem, I have read about starving this things, like no drug use and I must say I did used from tobacco, to alcohol and cannabis, now I dont, can they feed on anger? like it makes me angry some times.

Parasites, not demons (just my perspective based on what you wrote, I'm not there, and I'm definitely not an exorcist). And yeah, they absolutely feed on your energy.

If it feeds on lust, for example, you might start getting intrusive sexual thoughts that feel off, not yours. That’s something to pay attention to. If you let it spiral, it feeds. It wants you to chase those thoughts, because that gives it the charge it needs to keep hanging on. And yeah, it can go on for years if unchecked.

Same goes for anger. Rage out of nowhere? Thoughts that feel disproportionate or unusually intense? That can be it stirring the pot. And when you notice it, sometimes it’ll back off or go quiet for a while. That doesn’t mean it’s gone, it just doesn’t want to be seen. Awareness threatens it. Naming it burns it.

Can it fight back? Absolutely. If it’s found a food source, it’s going to try to keep it. That’s just basic survival.

Anyway, glad you're doing better with cutting off drugs and alcohol. That helps starve the damn thing. Keep going!

Legal disclaimer: I am not a qualified exorcist, spiritual hygienist, or wizard of any approved cool kid rank. All my posts are based on my own experience and reckless curiosity. YMMV

 

[Morell]

Legal disclaimer: I am not a qualified exorcist, spiritual hygienist, or wizard of any approved cool kid rank. All my posts are based on my own experience and reckless curiosity. YMMV

Experience tends to guide us well.

 

[Konsciencia]

So, I learned from a good friend of mine on YouTube. That it is not Demons we are dealing with, we are dealing with what She calls Wetiko. They're parasitic in nature.

 

[Morell]

So, I learned from a good friend of mine on YouTube. That it is not Demons we are dealing with, we are dealing with what She calls Wetiko. They're parasitic in nature.

Something like Larvae?

 

[Konsciencia]

You can say that.

 

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This description completely disagrees with my understanding of spiritual. It almost sounds like if any spirit is demon and dangerous to humans. In my experience, like... all spirits that attacked me were created by humans, souless servitors. Might had been also some spirit that wasn't human made, but I assume that the greatest problem of humanity are not demons, but humans.

These huge egregore beings that are spirits of nations are of various ages, but as the nations change, so their egregores change too. You can think of it as each person of nation being like a cell in body of this egregore, generating it. Whatever Mexico has, Mexico created.

BTW, can you imagine exorcism of entire Mexico? Wow, that would be interesting to watch. Besides according to what I think as I said... it wouldn't work.

I don't deny that there can be magic solution for your country, but I think that it isn't in exorcism.

it would not be difficult to exorcise an entire nation, however even though some nations like indonesia do blame the supernatural, with iran its the opposite case where they're being punished not by demons but by angels, given angels do complain about the religious and dont appreciate the threat they pose to those they protect. I've noticed some disasters caused by angels though some even viral pandemics.

Reading through the pages of comments though, the real cause of the issue is not the supernatural but human choices and behaviour. demons do not involve themselves in human politics, but humans wanting things would ask them for it for example. Healers i know in indonesia talk about how some groups with strong traditional occult practices and spirits they use do stuff and theres also talk of being victims.

To me supernatural issues are easy to solve even on the national or global level. The main question is, what does the human want to choose? do they want to cooperate and strive to better their world or are they striving for themselves over others? The supernatural does not simply act in place of humans, they have to be asked instead. So the main question should be on humans choosing evil as they are not influenced by demons to do so.

This is why i dont simply involve myself with indonesia. with south america like brazil, it is not influenced by the supernatural but human greed. Once an evil leader is in power, things fall apart. Yemen is an example with so many starving and using ideology to fight despite their situation.

The real devil here isnt the demons people think are getting involved but religion. To me if a religion tells you to submit to god, or that you are a slave to god or that you have to do anything for god, then thats not god but devil. The evidence is by concept. No one talks about how some countries fight ideological battles because of religion when it turns out their god(s) are devils. This involvement though is not as direct as people think and again its something humans choose to and indoctrinate others to rather than be influenced by the supernatural directly. There arent dreams or voices for people to do this.

 

[WetMudAirFire]

it would not be difficult to exorcise an entire nation, however even though some nations like indonesia do blame the supernatural, with iran its the opposite case where they're being punished not by demons but by angels, given angels do complain about the religious and dont appreciate the threat they pose to those they protect. I've noticed some disasters caused by angels though some even viral pandemics.

Reading through the pages of comments though, the real cause of the issue is not the supernatural but human choices and behaviour. demons do not involve themselves in human politics, but humans wanting things would ask them for it for example. Healers i know in indonesia talk about how some groups with strong traditional occult practices and spirits they use do stuff and theres also talk of being victims.

To me supernatural issues are easy to solve even on the national or global level. The main question is, what does the human want to choose? do they want to cooperate and strive to better their world or are they striving for themselves over others? The supernatural does not simply act in place of humans, they have to be asked instead. So the main question should be on humans choosing evil as they are not influenced by demons to do so.

This is why i dont simply involve myself with indonesia. with south america like brazil, it is not influenced by the supernatural but human greed. Once an evil leader is in power, things fall apart. Yemen is an example with so many starving and using ideology to fight despite their situation.

The real devil here isnt the demons people think are getting involved but religion. To me if a religion tells you to submit to god, or that you are a slave to god or that you have to do anything for god, then thats not god but devil. The evidence is by concept. No one talks about how some countries fight ideological battles because of religion when it turns out their god(s) are devils. This involvement though is not as direct as people think and again its something humans choose to and indoctrinate others to rather than be influenced by the supernatural directly. There arent dreams or voices for people to do this.

Almost as if the religion is merely a politics.

 

[Morell]

Almost as if the religion is merely a politics.

It is.

At least in my understanding it is, because religion is set of rituals and traditions that are practiced among the people regardless of their spirituality, Spirituality is personal interaction and experience and life with spiritual worlds.

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it would not be difficult to exorcise an entire nation, however even though some nations like indonesia do blame the supernatural, with iran its the opposite case where they're being punished not by demons but by angels, given angels do complain about the religious and dont appreciate the threat they pose to those they protect. I've noticed some disasters caused by angels though some even viral pandemics.

Reading through the pages of comments though, the real cause of the issue is not the supernatural but human choices and behaviour. demons do not involve themselves in human politics, but humans wanting things would ask them for it for example. Healers i know in indonesia talk about how some groups with strong traditional occult practices and spirits they use do stuff and theres also talk of being victims.

To me supernatural issues are easy to solve even on the national or global level. The main question is, what does the human want to choose? do they want to cooperate and strive to better their world or are they striving for themselves over others? The supernatural does not simply act in place of humans, they have to be asked instead. So the main question should be on humans choosing evil as they are not influenced by demons to do so.

This is why i dont simply involve myself with indonesia. with south america like brazil, it is not influenced by the supernatural but human greed. Once an evil leader is in power, things fall apart. Yemen is an example with so many starving and using ideology to fight despite their situation.

The real devil here isnt the demons people think are getting involved but religion. To me if a religion tells you to submit to god, or that you are a slave to god or that you have to do anything for god, then thats not god but devil. The evidence is by concept. No one talks about how some countries fight ideological battles because of religion when it turns out their god(s) are devils. This involvement though is not as direct as people think and again its something humans choose to and indoctrinate others to rather than be influenced by the supernatural directly. There arent dreams or voices for people to do this.

I don't want to agree blindly with you. However you might see way more than I do and I don't see that much. But I do sense changes in what could be called timeline. Some power or powers do manipulate fate of humanity and they are not against us. I don't know more but I do sense this myself. Who or what these powers are I don't know.

Makes me think about prison planet theory again. Hate how it keeps making sense.

What you have in mind with Iran? I don't keep much in touch with the world events.

 

[silencewaits]

I dont think that "Mexico Violent =Demonic Possession" is more of a theory and it seems to fit ok with the fact that our drug lords work with our government and we are that country Anglo people come for parties, and they come for cheap drugs, is like the perfect place for degenerates.

The US and other countries create a market for the drugs, and that creates an incentive to produce the drugs for cheaper. And it creates an incentive to protect the business. Latin American drug cartels really revolutionized the whole killing business. No need for someone in the trade, just give some starving kid twenty bucks to knock off a rival from the back of his friend's motorbike and abracadabra - sicario! Not to mention the money, the status. It happens in a lot of communities--beyond simply blaming it on poverty. Why work like a slave when you can be a badass rifle-wielding warrior? Have songs written about you. As for why they have grown so violent, organized, and powerful in these last couple of decades? You have to give credit to Los Zetas. Their founding members were elite Special Forces troops trained by US and Israeli spec-ops in just the kinds of things members of a drug cartel should excel at. They revolutionized the whole thing! Produced the narco-paramilitaries. I could go more into the history, and the geopolitical intentions behind why things are kept the way they are, but that's beyond the topic of this thread.

Have you considered embracing the magical or spiritual traditions of your country? Utilizing and understanding them? Our ancestry can have an influence on us, whether we choose it or not, and part of understanding yourself (something magically important) is understanding where you came from. The energies outside of yourself that influence your personal makeup.

Yes, the Agathodaimon is a solar spirit central to the Aurum Solis, he is a Winged Serpent, but also sir according to the ancient greeks the Daemon was also the tutelar spirit, like the HGA from other traditions.

Case in point--that sounds a lot like Quetzalcoatl.