Djinn & Islamic spirits

[raaz]

Thanks, will continue Surah 112 and start Dua Ayatul Kursi

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What about Ilm Khodam?

 

[Amadeus]

Ilm Khodam?

The book contains some methods. I just checked the archive.org version, 20 pages, wasn't there a longer version? Maybe I'm thinking of another book here. I have some of these...somewhere. I haven't bothered looking for them right now, I will do it at some point I'm still wondering where I put the jaljalutiya... I think the last time I experimented with it was a while ago, too long ago. It's jaljalutiya kubra or something. The spelling, I searched for it online but only found some in Arabic. It could be yalyalutiya, jaljalutiyah a combination of Y's J's.

I am not sure which one to recommend from this book. I keep thinking of some chapter 112 method but was it in there, in this book? I can't check it right now, too busy. I would first experiment with the others. Bahr, kursi dua and 112.

Regarding the dua kursi, bahr and 112. These are very good but you need either formulas or lots of spamming. The question is what are you doing with them in the long run and how efficient will they be? All 3 can be very good. I know it can be very individual with all these practices. They could be great after a certain point or you might have to switch around and prioritize something else. Variety and switching can help. Then again often consistency is the key, daily devotional work. Doing the same thing can become stale and dull.

You mentioned the sihr against you. The sufi kind of advice would be to also read the 5x daily prayers and definitely include ayatul kursi in there, along with 112, 113, 114 and maybe 9/128 and 9/129. The 9/128 and 9/129 are also very good verses. They are used in various rituals. If you have been working with such practices for a while then you probably have some stamina and a connection.

The most concerning part here is how the verse and dua spamming will affect your mind, psyche, spiritual states. Bahr and dua kursi are both considered to be very hot. Intense effects. I can't stress it enough, the line between good and bad effects is very thin and it can go from A to B faster than you can think, especially with hot duas and excessive spamming. You have to evaluate the state at all times. Stuff like this stacks, stacks and stacks again. Sometimes it's good to reset the mind by doing longer cover to cover readings than stacking so much.

You might want to include the dalayl khayrat in there, perhaps. Some people said it is very good in cases like yours. I'm more of a fan of the duas. DK is a bit different. I can clearly remember how somebody in a similar situation said it brought great help. DK can be read as parts or everything at once. Daily readings.

There are many other methods. The chapter 36 ya seen can provide you with relief and you could get connected to the servants. Chapter 20 is quite nice too and so is 73. The chapter 36 method, one of them is to read it 80x, one round of ya seen is 2,5-3 pages.

 

[Drakaina1313]

Sorry to briefly interrupt the conversation, but I have some interest in this topic, @Amadeus . Is it ok if I DM you to give some background and ask for your insight?

 

[juanitos]

anyone has ever had an experience with jinnya- female jinn?
I read about that... just wondering if that is really possible..

 

[Amadeus]

Is it ok if I DM you

Yes sure you can message me. I will reply as soon as possible.

female jinn

Some people say they have conjured them, "married them" all kinds of bizarre cases. Then the tribes supposedly attacked the person for interfering. I don't know... sounds a bit wild. Many warn against these relationships.
With these texts like bahr, dua kursi, the dhikr, others, the ones who show up might have a female form. Are they always like that I don't know. I remember in some case I worked with the la ilaha illallah and some strange female jinn or khodam showed up. Then something improved. Are they always like that or not, no idea. Maybe they just take another shape...?

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I can point you the directions and show you the way but you never know what's going to happen. This is also why there's little to no information on the subjects, it's unpredictable, hard to explain and needs guidance on the go. The methods I'm using are based on spamming. Spam turns the world around. I focus on 2 main systems, monasticism and sufism. These days it's more about monasticism because these are 2 different systems and using both simultaneously can lead to a weird mess.
Jinn, khodam, some say they are the same thing, oh well I guess in some cases that's how it is.

 

[Keldan]

anyone has ever had an experience with jinnya- female jinn?

I do work quite intensively with djinns. There are many different types of djinns and there are male and female djinns.

Djinn aren’t Islamic spirits, they’re simply mentioned in Islam much like angels are mentioned in the Bible. Some present themselves in traditional Islamic style clothing, while others appear in modern attire.

To answer OP’s question, I don’t work with them through curses. And I don’t read or recite anything thousands of times. I evoke the djinns I work with.

 

[raaz]

Sorry to briefly interrupt the conversation, but I have some interest in this topic, @Amadeus . Is it ok if I DM you to give some background and ask for your insight?

Post your queries here itself, if possible, so that others too can learn from it

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The book contains some methods. I just checked the archive.org version, 20 pages, wasn't there a longer version? Maybe I'm thinking of another book here. I have some of these...somewhere. I haven't bothered looking for them right now, I will do it at some point I'm still wondering where I put the jaljalutiya... I think the last time I experimented with it was a while ago, too long ago. It's jaljalutiya kubra or something. The spelling, I searched for it online but only found some in Arabic. It could be yalyalutiya, jaljalutiyah a combination of Y's J's.

I am not sure which one to recommend from this book. I keep thinking of some chapter 112 method but was it in there, in this book? I can't check it right now, too busy. I would first experiment with the others. Bahr, kursi dua and 112.

Regarding the dua kursi, bahr and 112. These are very good but you need either formulas or lots of spamming. The question is what are you doing with them in the long run and how efficient will they be? All 3 can be very good. I know it can be very individual with all these practices. They could be great after a certain point or you might have to switch around and prioritize something else. Variety and switching can help. Then again often consistency is the key, daily devotional work. Doing the same thing can become stale and dull.

You mentioned the sihr against you. The sufi kind of advice would be to also read the 5x daily prayers and definitely include ayatul kursi in there, along with 112, 113, 114 and maybe 9/128 and 9/129. The 9/128 and 9/129 are also very good verses. They are used in various rituals. If you have been working with such practices for a while then you probably have some stamina and a connection.

The most concerning part here is how the verse and dua spamming will affect your mind, psyche, spiritual states. Bahr and dua kursi are both considered to be very hot. Intense effects. I can't stress it enough, the line between good and bad effects is very thin and it can go from A to B faster than you can think, especially with hot duas and excessive spamming. You have to evaluate the state at all times. Stuff like this stacks, stacks and stacks again. Sometimes it's good to reset the mind by doing longer cover to cover readings than stacking so much.

You might want to include the dalayl khayrat in there, perhaps. Some people said it is very good in cases like yours. I'm more of a fan of the duas. DK is a bit different. I can clearly remember how somebody in a similar situation said it brought great help. DK can be read as parts or everything at once. Daily readings.

There are many other methods. The chapter 36 ya seen can provide you with relief and you could get connected to the servants. Chapter 20 is quite nice too and so is 73. The chapter 36 method, one of them is to read it 80x, one round of ya seen is 2,5-3 pages.

In Ilm Khodam, it saying to take fasting, so in Ramdan it's a good time to perform it. In previous ramadan, I recited those dikr and I had some psychic effects, I'm not talking about those to invoke Khodam, but thos regular dikr be recited after each prayers. But now I'm not getting that psychic effects

 

[Drakaina1313]

Post your queries here itself, if possible, so that others too can learn from it

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In Ilm Khodam, it saying to take fasting, so in Ramdan it's a good time to perform it. In previous ramadan, I recited those dikr and I had some psychic effects, I'm not talking about those to invoke Khodam, but thos regular dikr be recited after each prayers. But now I'm not getting that psychic effects

Under most circumstances I would but my question involves a personal experience (that doesn't include djinn), which I prefer to keep private.

 

[Amadeus]

fasting, so in Ramdan it's a good time to perform it. In previous ramadan,

During the ramadan it can give a stronger boosted effect. I suppose this is because most of the muslims read the Quran and dhikr. Exploding amount of energy going in the system. Directed by all of them. Some people say fasting is very important but others say it is not necessary at all.

psychic effects

Such effects can come if you do recitation based methods. It trains your ability to focus on a single thing for a long time at once. The stamina to use and take in more energy goes higher, ability to switch off thoughts. Then the sensitivity increases, it can go to a point where everything goes right through you. This can actually become very annoying because feeling too much in certain environments could become a burden. If you focus on a single set of practices, single core system let's say sufism then it can go better but I did it mixed with everything else and the sensitivity became an annoyance.

And I don’t read or recite anything thousands of times. I evoke the djinns I work with

Yes you are doing it the other way, that works well too of course. I prefer the recitation based methods because of the reasons I previously wrote, training the focus point, stamina, endurance, being charged and getting into interesting states. Also these methods, unless you fry your mind, are a lot safer. Some people have evoked after finding promising methods in random jinn books, and they were not able to get rid of them anymore.