Djinn & Islamic spirits

[raaz]

Thanks, will continue Surah 112 and start Dua Ayatul Kursi

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What about Ilm Khodam?

 

[Amadeus]

Ilm Khodam?

The book contains some methods. I just checked the archive.org version, 20 pages, wasn't there a longer version? Maybe I'm thinking of another book here. I have some of these...somewhere. I haven't bothered looking for them right now, I will do it at some point I'm still wondering where I put the jaljalutiya... I think the last time I experimented with it was a while ago, too long ago. It's jaljalutiya kubra or something. The spelling, I searched for it online but only found some in Arabic. It could be yalyalutiya, jaljalutiyah a combination of Y's J's.

I am not sure which one to recommend from this book. I keep thinking of some chapter 112 method but was it in there, in this book? I can't check it right now, too busy. I would first experiment with the others. Bahr, kursi dua and 112.

Regarding the dua kursi, bahr and 112. These are very good but you need either formulas or lots of spamming. The question is what are you doing with them in the long run and how efficient will they be? All 3 can be very good. I know it can be very individual with all these practices. They could be great after a certain point or you might have to switch around and prioritize something else. Variety and switching can help. Then again often consistency is the key, daily devotional work. Doing the same thing can become stale and dull.

You mentioned the sihr against you. The sufi kind of advice would be to also read the 5x daily prayers and definitely include ayatul kursi in there, along with 112, 113, 114 and maybe 9/128 and 9/129. The 9/128 and 9/129 are also very good verses. They are used in various rituals. If you have been working with such practices for a while then you probably have some stamina and a connection.

The most concerning part here is how the verse and dua spamming will affect your mind, psyche, spiritual states. Bahr and dua kursi are both considered to be very hot. Intense effects. I can't stress it enough, the line between good and bad effects is very thin and it can go from A to B faster than you can think, especially with hot duas and excessive spamming. You have to evaluate the state at all times. Stuff like this stacks, stacks and stacks again. Sometimes it's good to reset the mind by doing longer cover to cover readings than stacking so much.

You might want to include the dalayl khayrat in there, perhaps. Some people said it is very good in cases like yours. I'm more of a fan of the duas. DK is a bit different. I can clearly remember how somebody in a similar situation said it brought great help. DK can be read as parts or everything at once. Daily readings.

There are many other methods. The chapter 36 ya seen can provide you with relief and you could get connected to the servants. Chapter 20 is quite nice too and so is 73. The chapter 36 method, one of them is to read it 80x, one round of ya seen is 2,5-3 pages.

 

[Drakaina1313]

Sorry to briefly interrupt the conversation, but I have some interest in this topic, @Amadeus . Is it ok if I DM you to give some background and ask for your insight?

 

[juanitos]

anyone has ever had an experience with jinnya- female jinn?
I read about that... just wondering if that is really possible..

 

[Amadeus]

Is it ok if I DM you

Yes sure you can message me. I will reply as soon as possible.

female jinn

Some people say they have conjured them, "married them" all kinds of bizarre cases. Then the tribes supposedly attacked the person for interfering. I don't know... sounds a bit wild. Many warn against these relationships.
With these texts like bahr, dua kursi, the dhikr, others, the ones who show up might have a female form. Are they always like that I don't know. I remember in some case I worked with the la ilaha illallah and some strange female jinn or khodam showed up. Then something improved. Are they always like that or not, no idea. Maybe they just take another shape...?

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I can point you the directions and show you the way but you never know what's going to happen. This is also why there's little to no information on the subjects, it's unpredictable, hard to explain and needs guidance on the go. The methods I'm using are based on spamming. Spam turns the world around. I focus on 2 main systems, monasticism and sufism. These days it's more about monasticism because these are 2 different systems and using both simultaneously can lead to a weird mess.
Jinn, khodam, some say they are the same thing, oh well I guess in some cases that's how it is.

 

[Keldan]

anyone has ever had an experience with jinnya- female jinn?

I do work quite intensively with djinns. There are many different types of djinns and there are male and female djinns.

Djinn aren’t Islamic spirits, they’re simply mentioned in Islam much like angels are mentioned in the Bible. Some present themselves in traditional Islamic style clothing, while others appear in modern attire.

To answer OP’s question, I don’t work with them through curses. And I don’t read or recite anything thousands of times. I evoke the djinns I work with.

 

[raaz]

Sorry to briefly interrupt the conversation, but I have some interest in this topic, @Amadeus . Is it ok if I DM you to give some background and ask for your insight?

Post your queries here itself, if possible, so that others too can learn from it

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The book contains some methods. I just checked the archive.org version, 20 pages, wasn't there a longer version? Maybe I'm thinking of another book here. I have some of these...somewhere. I haven't bothered looking for them right now, I will do it at some point I'm still wondering where I put the jaljalutiya... I think the last time I experimented with it was a while ago, too long ago. It's jaljalutiya kubra or something. The spelling, I searched for it online but only found some in Arabic. It could be yalyalutiya, jaljalutiyah a combination of Y's J's.

I am not sure which one to recommend from this book. I keep thinking of some chapter 112 method but was it in there, in this book? I can't check it right now, too busy. I would first experiment with the others. Bahr, kursi dua and 112.

Regarding the dua kursi, bahr and 112. These are very good but you need either formulas or lots of spamming. The question is what are you doing with them in the long run and how efficient will they be? All 3 can be very good. I know it can be very individual with all these practices. They could be great after a certain point or you might have to switch around and prioritize something else. Variety and switching can help. Then again often consistency is the key, daily devotional work. Doing the same thing can become stale and dull.

You mentioned the sihr against you. The sufi kind of advice would be to also read the 5x daily prayers and definitely include ayatul kursi in there, along with 112, 113, 114 and maybe 9/128 and 9/129. The 9/128 and 9/129 are also very good verses. They are used in various rituals. If you have been working with such practices for a while then you probably have some stamina and a connection.

The most concerning part here is how the verse and dua spamming will affect your mind, psyche, spiritual states. Bahr and dua kursi are both considered to be very hot. Intense effects. I can't stress it enough, the line between good and bad effects is very thin and it can go from A to B faster than you can think, especially with hot duas and excessive spamming. You have to evaluate the state at all times. Stuff like this stacks, stacks and stacks again. Sometimes it's good to reset the mind by doing longer cover to cover readings than stacking so much.

You might want to include the dalayl khayrat in there, perhaps. Some people said it is very good in cases like yours. I'm more of a fan of the duas. DK is a bit different. I can clearly remember how somebody in a similar situation said it brought great help. DK can be read as parts or everything at once. Daily readings.

There are many other methods. The chapter 36 ya seen can provide you with relief and you could get connected to the servants. Chapter 20 is quite nice too and so is 73. The chapter 36 method, one of them is to read it 80x, one round of ya seen is 2,5-3 pages.

In Ilm Khodam, it saying to take fasting, so in Ramdan it's a good time to perform it. In previous ramadan, I recited those dikr and I had some psychic effects, I'm not talking about those to invoke Khodam, but thos regular dikr be recited after each prayers. But now I'm not getting that psychic effects

 

[Drakaina1313]

Post your queries here itself, if possible, so that others too can learn from it

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In Ilm Khodam, it saying to take fasting, so in Ramdan it's a good time to perform it. In previous ramadan, I recited those dikr and I had some psychic effects, I'm not talking about those to invoke Khodam, but thos regular dikr be recited after each prayers. But now I'm not getting that psychic effects

Under most circumstances I would but my question involves a personal experience (that doesn't include djinn), which I prefer to keep private.

 

[Amadeus]

fasting, so in Ramdan it's a good time to perform it. In previous ramadan,

During the ramadan it can give a stronger boosted effect. I suppose this is because most of the muslims read the Quran and dhikr. Exploding amount of energy going in the system. Directed by all of them. Some people say fasting is very important but others say it is not necessary at all.

psychic effects

Such effects can come if you do recitation based methods. It trains your ability to focus on a single thing for a long time at once. The stamina to use and take in more energy goes higher, ability to switch off thoughts. Then the sensitivity increases, it can go to a point where everything goes right through you. This can actually become very annoying because feeling too much in certain environments could become a burden. If you focus on a single set of practices, single core system let's say sufism then it can go better but I did it mixed with everything else and the sensitivity became an annoyance.

And I don’t read or recite anything thousands of times. I evoke the djinns I work with

Yes you are doing it the other way, that works well too of course. I prefer the recitation based methods because of the reasons I previously wrote, training the focus point, stamina, endurance, being charged and getting into interesting states. Also these methods, unless you fry your mind, are a lot safer. Some people have evoked after finding promising methods in random jinn books, and they were not able to get rid of them anymore.

 

[Seekah]

There is this quote
Whoever recites Surah Al-Ikhlas 100,000 times buys themselves from Allah, and it is announced in heaven and earth that they are set free.

One method is going for 100K times, this can trigger something to come. It is one of those non aggressive methods where they are not exactly forced to come and will show up by their own will. This means reading a lot of 112 daily. It is short like a mantra, only consists of a few lines. For a good connection you would have to do very long sessions like 6-8 hours or so.
The servants could show up in your room, you could feel and hear them or see them in dreams. These dreams are very unique and "HD quality", something you will remember down to the smallest details. You could be in a contact in a half asleep state and hear everything.

The 112 has interesting servants and jinn connected to it. This verse is one of the most read ones and I think most muslims read it daily in their prayers.

112, very fast recitations take 4-5 seconds, slower 6-7. Doing it at 6s and 100K times takes 166 hours and 40 minutes.
166.67 ÷ 8 hours a day = 20.83 days. Maybe going slower, you could fit it in the traditional 40, many of these rituals take 40-41 days.


There is the method of reading it at nights some 1005x times and asking for the servant to come forward. In these cases the names are given by them. "Oooo servant of the verse, come forward and help me/speak".

The problem with 112 and many other verses is that the energy is highly specific. If you are into some other practices then it could turn into a mess. Quran verses, dhikr and the 99 names have highly specific energy. Since the processing is very high over here, you better start off with something lighter than going for 100000 times right away.

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One method is focusing on 112 doing a retreat in seclusion where you just read it non stop all days long without counting anything. This also turns you into a "beacon" and you will get noticed. The same method is done with verses like the 2/255 9/128 and 9/129, dhikrs and 99 names. Counting something, only do it with beads counting the rounds. You do not want to do the live count mode, it is awful.

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There are more methods with the 112 but you should first learn to process the information and energy. You have to experiment and test it without breaking your mind. If you have not done anything like this before then definitely do not go for 6, 8 or more hours at once. It will not end well.

Do you have any experience with surah Al-Jinn? If yes, how can connect with the servants of this surah?

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The book contains some methods. I just checked the archive.org version, 20 pages, wasn't there a longer version? Maybe I'm thinking of another book here. I have some of these...somewhere. I haven't bothered looking for them right now, I will do it at some point I'm still wondering where I put the jaljalutiya... I think the last time I experimented with it was a while ago, too long ago. It's jaljalutiya kubra or something. The spelling, I searched for it online but only found some in Arabic. It could be yalyalutiya, jaljalutiyah a combination of Y's J's.

I am not sure which one to recommend from this book. I keep thinking of some chapter 112 method but was it in there, in this book? I can't check it right now, too busy. I would first experiment with the others. Bahr, kursi dua and 112.

Regarding the dua kursi, bahr and 112. These are very good but you need either formulas or lots of spamming. The question is what are you doing with them in the long run and how efficient will they be? All 3 can be very good. I know it can be very individual with all these practices. They could be great after a certain point or you might have to switch around and prioritize something else. Variety and switching can help. Then again often consistency is the key, daily devotional work. Doing the same thing can become stale and dull.

You mentioned the sihr against you. The sufi kind of advice would be to also read the 5x daily prayers and definitely include ayatul kursi in there, along with 112, 113, 114 and maybe 9/128 and 9/129. The 9/128 and 9/129 are also very good verses. They are used in various rituals. If you have been working with such practices for a while then you probably have some stamina and a connection.

The most concerning part here is how the verse and dua spamming will affect your mind, psyche, spiritual states. Bahr and dua kursi are both considered to be very hot. Intense effects. I can't stress it enough, the line between good and bad effects is very thin and it can go from A to B faster than you can think, especially with hot duas and excessive spamming. You have to evaluate the state at all times. Stuff like this stacks, stacks and stacks again. Sometimes it's good to reset the mind by doing longer cover to cover readings than stacking so much.

You might want to include the dalayl khayrat in there, perhaps. Some people said it is very good in cases like yours. I'm more of a fan of the duas. DK is a bit different. I can clearly remember how somebody in a similar situation said it brought great help. DK can be read as parts or everything at once. Daily readings.

There are many other methods. The chapter 36 ya seen can provide you with relief and you could get connected to the servants. Chapter 20 is quite nice too and so is 73. The chapter 36 method, one of them is to read it 80x, one round of ya seen is 2,5-3 pages.

And what is your suggestion regarding the ritual for attracting a khadam by reciting "hayloosh" 1500x after each obligatory prayer, the ritual is in the book of servants.

 

[Amadeus]

Al-Jinn

The chapter 72 yes. There are some methods available online, probably more exist out there. There's one where it's read 333x333x334, 3 days a thousand readings.

The chapters 72 and 73. I remember the stories about 73 better. With both of them the kind of basic mad sufi approach is to focus on the chapters. There's some number of recitations that must be done. With 73 it's between 140-150x, easier to just do 150x. I think the number has to do with verse value calculations. This one brought the servants into my dreams and I got some results. With the 72, I remember doing a freestyle approach where I focused on it, trying to connect but what exactly happened, I'm not sure. This was maybe 9-10-11 years ago. I'm quite sure it triggered an event of some kind. They all do that. Then I did something like the 40-41x 72 for 72-73 days and eventually I think it triggered similar outcomes as the others.

Most of these methods triggered an event of some kind. Dreams, meetings, conversations, physical results. The readings worked as an offering and triggered desirable outcomes. With 72-73, actually many of the methods. When you complete the formula you can get assistance on the go as long as you keep doing the ritual. This can be felt, a presence, thoughts, dreams and unseen support. Salawats and dhikr do it the same way. The keyword is dedication and if enough is done, there will be great outcomes. It depends what you're doing though, where and how it manifests.

If you rely on methods without directly commanding something to appear then the keyword is spam. The more the better, daily. You could take another method where it's combined with the special verses read x number of times after the 72,73 or something else

If the goal is to have something appear physically, a lot of spamming is required, more specific methods or a lot of spam. I'm more of somebody who feels, gets dreams, receives info than one who gets a physical spirit to show up. There were orbs, green-yellow flashing by. Specific smell in the air, roses, flowers, incense. Only you feel it and it's hard to describe.

The hayloosh thing is similar to many of the methods where a particular verse or something is read after the prayers. Since it's so short and goes fast, the best suggestion is to go for it. You'll be able to do it very fast and it's easy. Only a single word.

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Good information regarding these doesn't really exist online. The orders don't share information. You'll find weird methods, incomplete ones and random writings.
Something crazy you could do, basic 40-41x 72 for 40-41x, or 150x just like with the 73, for 41 days. You could add, servant of the verse come forward and help me with my requests or just say come forward.

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For a while I've focused more on single sentence dhikrs, duas, than working with 72 or 73. The servants of power verses and the main dhikr are good, the main dhikrs and 99 names.

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In some cases the rituals could take longer, even 90 days of readings, 72-73 days, these numbers, 7, 12, 40, 41, 72, 73, 90 days.

The method you can find online is for getting connected to Abu Yusuf with the 72th chapter.

 

[juanitos]

Looks like very serious practice, dedication, perseverance are needed. Very few people are so committed to such a tremendous work...