[Opinion] Egyptian Deities & Vampirism

[Accipeveldare]

Nowady

Hey bro, it's been a long time since our last chat nice to see you still around, returning to this topic now with a better understanding and experience both of us and setting aside the Luis Marques scam, im still pretty sure there is a connection between vampirism and ancient Egypt. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead( Coming Forth by Day), it says that Horus brought Osiris back from the dead transferring his Ka to him. ¿that sounds pretty vampiric to me? It also discusses how the Ka is a kind of life essence rather than simply energy. There's also the symbolism of the Ankh and its use in modern vampirism. However, I think it's a rather complicated topic and a rabbit hole tbh specially compared with other vampiric currents wich are richer in information and, above all more verifiable

Nowadays, to me it seems that most pantheons have a vampiric deity of some sort. I have learned this after i got a fresh look of things about a year ago upon leaving the Aset Ka. And nice to see you around too, been a while lol.

 

[Morell]

Hey bro, it's been a long time since our last chat nice to see you still around, returning to this topic now with a better understanding and experience both of us and setting aside the Luis Marques scam, im still pretty sure there is a connection between vampirism and ancient Egypt. In the Egyptian Book of the Dead( Coming Forth by Day), it says that Horus brought Osiris back from the dead transferring his Ka to him. ¿that sounds pretty vampiric to me? It also discusses how the Ka is a kind of life essence rather than simply energy. There's also the symbolism of the Ankh and its use in modern vampirism. However, I think it's a rather complicated topic and a rabbit hole tbh specially compared with other vampiric currents wich are richer in information and, above all more verifiable

If I'm not wrong, modern vampire - ankh connection was created in some horror movie, where vamps used ankhs with hidden blade to draw blood from their victims.

 

[Accipeveldare]

If I'm not wrong, modern vampire - ankh connection was created in some horror movie, where vamps used ankhs with hidden blade to draw blood from their victims.

This, i learned a bit ago. I forgot the movie name, but Morell is correct.

 

[jin2494]

If I'm not wrong, modern vampire - ankh connection was created in some horror movie, where vamps used ankhs with hidden blade to draw blood from their victims.

The fist time i saw ankh in the occult scene was in the Don Webb and Belanger books also i think they mostly used it because of its meaning rather than Egypt and vampirism connection

 

[Firetree]

The fist time i saw ankh in the occult scene was in the Don Webb and Belanger books also i think they mostly used it because of its meaning rather than Egypt and vampirism connection

and what was its meaning ?

 

[Thee Nightfool]

So what are y'all's vampire deities of choice? I'm just curious. Lilith (via the Gamaliel shell of the Qliphoth) seems to have been the go-to for a lot of left-handed individuals for a minute now.

 

[Akhkharu]

If I'm not wrong, modern vampire - ankh connection was created in some horror movie, where vamps used ankhs with hidden blade to draw blood from their victims.

Greetings. The film in question is "The Hunger" directed by Tony Scott. Eventually, the symbol was adopted by the vampire community and gothic culture.

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So what are y'all's vampire deities of choice? I'm just curious. Lilith (via the Gamaliel shell of the Qliphoth) seems to have been the go-to for a lot of left-handed individuals for a minute now.

Lilith is perfect. She's not known as the Queen of Vampires for nothing. I suggest you turn your eyes to ancient Mesopotamia – you won't find the figure of the vampire as we conceive it, but you will find vampirism present in many obscure deities, such as Lamashtu, who would later become Lilith as we conceive her.

 

[Thee Nightfool]

Greetings. The film in question is "The Hunger" directed by Tony Scott. Eventually, the symbol was adopted by the vampire community and gothic culture.

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Lilith is perfect. She's not known as the Queen of Vampires for nothing. I suggest you turn your eyes to ancient Mesopotamia – you won't find the figure of the vampire as we conceive it, but you will find vampirism present in many obscure deities, such as Lamashtu, who would later become Lilith as we conceive her.

One of my issues with Lilith, or the multiple goddesses that seem to fall under her umbrella nowadays, is that there are odd, inconsistent views on who/what she is. I've seen her as a Kali analogue in the 218 anticosmic current, even. But my biggest issue, I think, is that there's no real attested tradition of veneration towards her (at least that we know of).

Lamastu, on the other hand... I seem to remember she was propetiated to stay away from individuals... but yeah, most regular types back then were more worried about the health of their families and their fucking crops failing, so I could understand that. Been meaning to read Jan Fries' book on her lately.

I'd be interested in knowing more about how you personally practice this sort of stuff, if you're open for discussion on it. Your name on here indicates that you do, at least.

 

[Digiquo]

One of my issues with Lilith, or the multiple goddesses that seem to fall under her umbrella nowadays, is that there are odd, inconsistent views on who/what she is. I've seen her as a Kali analogue in the 218 anticosmic current, even. But my biggest issue, I think, is that there's no real attested tradition of veneration towards her (at least that we know of).

Lamastu, on the other hand... I seem to remember she was propetiated to stay away from individuals... but yeah, most regular types back then were more worried about the health of their families and their fucking crops failing, so I could understand that. Been meaning to read Jan Fries' book on her lately.

I'd be interested in knowing more about how you personally practice this sort of stuff, if you're open for discussion on it. Your name on here indicates that you do, at least.

If you are familiar with the Esoterica channel on Youtube, there is a video that does a deep dive on the history behind Lilith and her many interpretations throughout the centuries, all from a very academic point of view that doesn't attempt to posture any particular interpretation as the correct one. There is a lot of good information he presents about many occult topics, and he cites most of his sources. Do your own fact checking still of course, but I highly recommend watching his videos to supplement your own research.

 

[SerpentBakery]

As an initiated practitioner of Aset Ka, my personal belief is that vampirism also goes hand in hand with Egyptian deities and working with them. The point of vampirism is to build up a part of yourself that will essentially survive past death. And how we do that? By taking energy or "Ka", "Chi", etc. At the end of the day they are all the same. But Egyptian deities (specifically Aset) have huge rolls in the development in your vampiric practice. Not working with them and then saying you are a vampire is, in my opinion, NOT vampirism.

Vampirism does not fall under the boundaries of Ma'at (that which Isis is inherently tied to also), as vampirism does imply an unwilling or unbalanced energy exchange. It is not and can not be under Divine Order. Ma'at, as is stressed in Egyptian practice many times, is the standard and objective natural structure for all things that are. Heka also works in tandem with Ma'at.

Aset herself is a Goddess of healing and motherhood, it is rather unlikely for her to oversee the act of an unwilling/unbalanced energy exchange as a deity who encourages it. You may be thinking of ancient Egyptian demons, who do indeed oversee such things (not all ancient Egyptian demons are bad, but those that engage in such acts as vampirism are, to my knowledge, generally not benevolent entities).

I am open to discussion if you would like to engage in it with me, as I am also a practitioner of Egyptian magic and so on, but if you read most ancient Egyptian texts you will see that the Gods always stress Order and Balance (Ma'at) in all things, and vampirism implies a lack of that within the energy exchange. I believe there may be a misunderstanding but I am open to being wrong.