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Spirit asks me to move to another continent

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Hello all, has anyone else ever experienced anything similar to this?
I used the pendulum earlier to speak to my spirit guides, they are locked in and I triple checked it was them giving me the answers. Before, and definitely afterwards again!
They said they had a message for me. I used a letter chart to get words to tell me what they wanted to say. They spelled out I should question my path. I then asked in relation to what exactly, this time without the letter chart as that takes ages and I'm not the most patient person there is.
Anyway the answer: quit your job and sell everything and move to another country on another continent. I mean what?....
I've lived and worked in different countries for years at a time, but am really settled in this one now, job and all. It seems a bit crazy to get a suggestion like that. It did agree it's my choice whether or not I move, and timeline wise if I did want to move.
It suggested some weeks ago that I'd live there sometime in the future and I thought yes, I've fancied that myself. However, maybe after retirement or so (still some 20+ years away) and it's not super easy to get into in that country in the first place. However, back then I didn't ask for a time line, and it clearly wants me to act on this way sooner to want to talk to me and they said within the next months!
They also told me not to worry about the logistics (I definitely would worry, I've done it often enough to know the hassle and it would be even more so now!) because I'll figure them out like I've always done. I mean nice and supportive and all, but what the heck?
 

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The fact that something wants you to move doesn't mean you have to move. I'd even find it suspicious that it's so interested in where you choose to live.
 

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Thank you for your reply.
I've asked them before if I'm on the right life path and they said yes then. I think they maybe took that as an invitation to tell me where they see it leading, and therefore wanted to tell me this.
I mean it would be great to have someone who can double check these are my kind and loving spirit guides with only positive intent for me and my life's journey. I do believe it's them, but I do like things to be verified whenever possible. I don't know if it is though.
 

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They might be kind and loving but they're not omniscient. You are the lord and they are your courtiers, not the other way around. Consider the opinions of all your advisors but don't assume they know what's the right path for your life, even if they are genuinely trying to help which is not a given.
 

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Okay thank you Nembra for saying that. I'll keep that in mind with all future contact with them.
 

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They said they had a message for me. I used a letter chart to get words to tell me what they wanted to say. They spelled out I should question my path.
Any idea who "they" might be, in relation to the rest of your map of existence?

In the Bible, when God wants to tell somebody something, it's usually like "Behold! I am God. This will now happen!" and it does. You can't reasonably deny it. Opposing it leads you to being eaten by wildlife or worse. But this? It sounds like unsolicited commands from an unvetted source. Despite your familiarity with this source, the method here is still basically asking a Ouija board.

then asked in relation to what exactly, this time without the letter chart as that takes ages and I'm not the most patient person there is.
This I also find concerning. If it's important enough to uproot your life and move across the planet, it might be important enough to get the answer the long way. Changing up the technique gives a lot of rope to whoever is on the other end.

Anyway the answer: quit your job and sell everything and move to another country on another continent.
Were you directed toward the southern hemisphere? The rest of us might get nuked, might not be a bad call.

A long time ago, a spirit told me to move to Los Angeles, that I would inevitably end up there whether I wanted to or not.

So I bought three parcels of land there, planned to build. Local construction laws made that... impossible... so two of the plots sold and I completely forgot about the other one as life intervened. Ten years later I needed to raise some cash and there it was, sold at profit, and it was really awesome that I had taken the initial advice. But I never moved. I can't see living there as realistic in my future, but who knows? One thing I do know is that unless God himself shows up and says "Behold! I am God!" I'm not going to obey the commands of any kind of spirit, demon, angel, aliens, etc unless I've given it full consideration on my own terms.
 

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They are 88 guidance/guardian spirits, ancestors and relatives from this and past lives, they've told me. They give off a loving and caring energy, and have been helpful with various things. It might sound strange, but our dog sees one of them. I know this because she tracks someone invisible around the room with her eyes on a daily basis and often interacts with them. The main spirit communicating with me said it is my grandfather, who passed away when I was young, who visits us. My childhood dog did the same, so he's been with me since he passed. I used to strongly sense him as a child. We were very close when he was alive, and he would never want any harm to come to me, so I trust that they are kind spirits.

They suggested Canada, so not very southernly.

Very interesting with you buying land and benefitting from it later on, even though you didn't move there.

I asked them earlier if I can complete my life's plan/tasks the same if I stay where I am. They said yes. So i'll take moving as a suggestion, but am not planning on actually moving based on that. If I do decide later on, then because I want to and can see it working. I don't just now.
Thinking about moving made me realise how much stuff we have though, and I think I'll start giving away some things we don't need and declutter a bit. I think that will definitely simplify my life in the long run, either way. So all in all not a bad outcome.
 

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Beware of trickster spirits posing as something they are not (like a guide). I would be sure that you are talking to who you think you are. There are various methods for proving a spirit is who they say they are.

If you are sure they are who they say they are, maybe try asking each one individually for their personal feelings and thoughts about the situation, rather than the whole group.

Finally, even if you are sure of who you are talking to and that they truly want this for you, remember that you are the one in control. Maybe ask them to help you plan it out, because "not worrying" isn't going to work for you, and it's suspicious. Tell them that if this would truly benefit you, you require a strong plan from them, and they must help you with this process. Maybe try sharing your finances during a divination and asking for advice and such.
 

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Beware of trickster spirits posing as something they are not (like a guide). I would be sure that you are talking to who you think you are. There are various methods for proving a spirit is who they say they are.

Thank you for your reply.
How can I reliably find out they are who they say they are?

They have told me four of they're names. Out of the blue I kept thinking of a name over and over again, after I first started speaking to them. I asked if this is the name of the spirit I've been speaking to and they said yes. This is the main one I talk to, I ask for him when I start. I got given another three names the same way, one it said is my grandfathers spirit name.

How do you communicate with spirits? I currently only use a pendulum, so can only get yes/no answers. The name thoughts felt like my own, so even if they were to talk to me that way, I'm not confident in knowing it's them or me just making up answers myself.
Using a letter chart with the pendulum takes too long for me I've found, as I get impatient quickly, and that will likely affect the replies with my energy I think.
 

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Thank you for your reply.
How can I reliably find out they are who they say they are?

They have told me four of they're names. Out of the blue I kept thinking of a name over and over again, after I first started speaking to them. I asked if this is the name of the spirit I've been speaking to and they said yes. This is the main one I talk to, I ask for him when I start. I got given another three names the same way, one it said is my grandfathers spirit name.

How do you communicate with spirits? I currently only use a pendulum, so can only get yes/no answers. The name thoughts felt like my own, so even if they were to talk to me that way, I'm not confident in knowing it's them or me just making up answers myself.
Using a letter chart with the pendulum takes too long for me I've found, as I get impatient quickly, and that will likely affect the replies with my energy I think.
Firstly, I'd recommend having multiple different ways to get answers to questions. Personally, I have two go-to divination tools that I am very proficient in. The first is for yes-or-no questions, and it is a basic deck of cards where one color answers yes, and one answers no. This is helpful because I can switch the color meanings to confirm a question if needed. The second is for more complex questions or predictions. That is the Tarot de Marseille. For you, the pendulum is just fine for yes-or-no questions. That is how I started. If you are comfortable with it, stick with it and pick up something else for more complex questions. I'd recommend some form of sortilege, such as runes, lots, tarot, etc. (especially for such a complex question as to how one is meant to go about moving to another continent on a whim).

My communication depends on a few things. If I need a quick question answered, I call the specific spirit(s) I wish to speak to to answer questions using the deck. I ask a protective power to lay their hand upon the deck and be sure that the answers are the truth and that only the spirit(s) I have named may answer the questions. Then I do a short breathing exercise/meditation (if I have the time), and I ask my question. I explain to the spirit my exact parameters (I need the card(s) to jump fully out of the deck, preferably one by one, and how many cards I will read - I do not read in spreads, but if you do, be sure to explain that spread to the spirit). If I have a bit more time, I usually ask my divinations during my daily offerings. I find that most spirits are more receptive to communicating during offerings, as you've given them something and they are pleased, so why not help out the human? Plus, they're all already there (presumably). During or after these more formal divination sessions, I will also meditate and try to receive any images, words, sounds, etc., and write them down (especially if they don't make sense in the moment), and possibly divine on them later. I find that these meditation sessions can give me brief sensations and thoughts that are usually even more helpful than the divination itself. Meditation will also help you with your struggle in determining, "was that a spirit speaking to me or just my own thoughts?" That's how I was, and sometimes still am, but there is a difference. It just takes time to figure it out, and it can be different for everyone.

As you can see, I am extremely formal and firm when it comes to my divinations, almost too much. I tend to doubt the spirits too much. However, they respond to all of the demands I make of them, especially since they have grown to appreciate my consistent daily offerings. This is something you should consider when determining if a spirit is who they say they are. I find that there are many ways that one could test the spirits. The easiest way is: Why would they want to fake being someone they aren't? In your case, why would the spirit want to fake being your guide or ancestor? In your case, I'd think about what advantage these spirits would have. Maybe feeding off of your stress about the situation, but I'm not sure about that. The most common thing that I find in spirits who ask for these extreme requests, like changing your whole life and doing exactly what they say, is that they will pose as someone they aren't so they can turn you into a religious fanatic who worships and follows them. Basically, some spirits really do want that kind of power in a practitioner's life, especially ones that they know could help the spirit in their endeavors in the spiritual realm and on Earth. In your case, I would directly contact your ancestors to confirm this. Ask them to appear to you in a dream or something. Ancestors will never go wrong with you (unless they hated you or something in their lives). They will usually want the actual best for you and want to protect you. Maybe give them an offering and send them some prayers asking for their guidance in this situation and to protect you from any trickster spirits. My ancestors, I always feel, are there, but they are definitely the quietest spirits, and I don't think they'd ask me to change my entire life in an instant. I find that the local spirits are louder and have a lot more to say than the ancestors. That is personal experience, of course. If you knew any of these ancestors in life, you could ask kind of random questions about their favorite things or play their favorite music or least favorite music for them and see how the spirit reacts. Have the questions you've been asking been what the ancestor would have told you when they were alive? If you never met these ancestors, from the stories you have heard, do the answers and overall personality of this spirit line up with this person? Basically, you have to interrogate them, but don't make it obvious. If they aren't your ancestors, you could ask many questions about you, since your spirit guide has presumably been with you your entire life. You have moved many times throughout your life, so these spirits should know about that and your family as well. Many trickster spirits, I have heard, are tied to an area, so they wouldn't have moved with you.

You can always, if you have the means, travel somewhere else far away and see if these spirits still respond. I just did this recently when I went from one country to another, and I got to see who followed me. Of course, this is an extreme example, and you probably don't need to do this.

Banishing is an option, although it is not my expertise.

Hope this helps!
 
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