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Thoughts on NOFAP?

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Isn't NOFAP a warrior practice?

I hear some cultures adopt HALFFAP because they claim that stop ejaculation right before it happens helps enhance aggression in some military doctrines.

As wizards I would say fapping is healthy enough, especially as we spend more time reading and enhancing our knowledge/expertise/skill/spirit essence.

However, we shouldn't be lazy and just fap forever of course. There comes a time when you venture out and are confident in your skills and expertise to secure a sexual partner. This should be pretty obvious/common sense though. xD
I think it’s a sign of discipline and of more interest to a magi by doing so rarely and when it is done, done slowly taking your time with it, edging to build that inner discipline and such.
I noticed that stretching certain ways (over a period of time) actually helps you last longer, and stretching to get good blood flow to the brain is always good, same with tension and release exercises that Chinese emperors would use, nowadays people do a form of it (keegles? I think) but it’s flexing and releasing that area, but emperors would isolate and do their lower buttocks area. Not legs or anything just that specific muscle group.
There was a video on YT where a guy went over this practice and talked about no fap that was very enlightening.

(He starts his talk at 22minutes)

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Hm I think many here missed the point. There is a reason that pornography was actually used as a weapon of war to weaken the population, guess this case was in gaza before, but i would say indirectly it's used anywhere in the world.
I mean think about tit, what better way to control the population than with keeping the young men in a state of nebulous non-care.

Procreation is the ultimate motivation to get ones shit together - with that being replaced by instant gratification there is no reason not to hang around smoking pot and mess around.

It's not that important if you ever fap or whatever - it's more about the connection it has to pornography and the hijacking of motivation. We all know by now that dopamine feedback loops are dangerous for motivation. Porn is the ultimate dopamine trap. At least visualize the scenario yourself XD I guess intention is a good one to get a grip on the mostly out of hand rhythm of release - just do it with intention to manifest.
Manifest a good time with your partner, manifest offspring or manifest a magickal intention.

For me it was very evident that whenever I abstain I reach major stepping stones in my life or suddenly manifest all things I wanted for years without even caring about them anymore.

It's really about detaching from desire - if I genuinely funnel the energy that is literally the power of creation into any other fields (and the difficulty of doing so for a longer time is just a major part of addiction) I begin to care for other things - care principle u know, Genesis or the G in masonry.

What I really want to realize for myself is the skill of orgasm without ejaculation that Mantak Chia teaches among others, there even is an app called 'mindgasm' for your phone that works on this.

I mean why would I weaken myself if I can have more intense orgasms without releasing physically? It even makes one more energetic and you are no worse partner by not ejaculating, in the contrary!

And I wouldn't care about the prostate warning personally, red light therapy takes care of that easily - if one applies intense light to that region or full body regularly.

I do not have to punish myself for releasing time to time, especially with a partner, it just happens. But I also do not have to punish myself with being a shadow of myself, lowering myself to the same levels as some nano-minded retards that can't even leave goats alone and can't see the divine feminine in any way or even see women as human.

Maybe I'm just a little enraged by not releasing enough lmao, maybe it's just being aware of the disastrous effects it has on societies and all of us in this day and age. Anyways.

You will always attract what you work towards, meaning increasing the odds of being able to have it, while not clinging to results, meaning lusting after it, so for me it's basically if I do not lust after women they throw themselves on me after a few weeks.

If you constantly release the essence you basically radiate 'impotence' - you signal you're not fertile.
Also a major problem in relationships or 'being on the wavelength' is that when you put your mind and body in constant build up, release - obsess, forget - you'll embody exactly that -instability. There is nothing more unattractive than instability to women.

Also a little advice regarding the edging and not releasing- it can be dangerous or unhealthy, as building pressure up that is not released can generate unbalance in the organs. More of a TCM view, could not prove that, but can relate to the feeling after edging and feeling like a 100k psi baloon.

I think it's essential to do all kinds of funneling this energy in being productive and fit - and learning the qi gong/tantric aspects to keep the body healthy. If one does not turn ones life around into direction of replacement activities it won't work. And even then it's hard like the morning erections that come with it. In the beginning just let the body take care of releasing overflow though wet dreams -those can be taken care of through abstaining from artificial sexual stimuli, doing a few rituals to keep off succubi like spirits away can also help.

At the same time there are many that advocate for releasing at least once a week. And that's okay - this shit anyways is just for the few that really want to go to these icy cave hermit monk mode Übermensch levels.

It's all about how you treat yourself - you could very well say 'I'm extremely healthy with releasing every day' and that's fine -
but I would just do such a thing in a relationship as there is at least some energy exchange. There are always times for certain routines -if it it living your dream falling in love, awesome- but wouldn't it be even nicer to potentiate this to levels unimaginable, with the same partner, tantric ecstasy for some hours without being drained afterwards?

I was very fit and all that with my nymphomaniac ex, but I would have been invincible if I managed to practice semen retention or tantra with her.
She was not the one to do that with, I'll wish you all to find someone to practice true tantric bliss.

So yeah, there is a reason many yogis and masters, scientists and artists or conquerors abstained.
But I also tend to be obsessive, extreme, unforgiving, saturnian and a little hard to myself, so take my words with a drop of Vaseline.
I sound really cocky in this post, but where if not in a post about this i thought.

Btw this post inspired me to post a collection of Mantak Chia books in the Library.
The book 'the multiorgasmic man' teaches orgasm without ejaculation.
 

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The dogmatic NOFAP stance is flawed as is the mindless FAP. For our purposes, sexual energy is magickal energy and can be directly used for accomplishment. For the same reason it can also be used for alchemical transformation directly.
 

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Nofap, provided it is not laced with abrahamic sex-phobia can be very strong. The first time I did over a month of complete abstinence almost effortlessly was when I was doing a regular, daily, fairly intense magical operation + lots of learning/working and physical activity. I don't think it can be done without abundant routes for the pent-up energy to manifest. Still makes you a bit mad.
 
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The dogmatic NOFAP stance is flawed as is the mindless FAP. For our purposes, sexual energy is magickal energy and can be directly used for accomplishment. For the same reason it can also be used for alchemical transformation directly.
Dis jus me yappin, it sounds like 'manosphere talking points' to many beautiful ears, move this thread to controversy now lol:

There is much truth to this. I think it all comes back to a matter of social engineering and is a reaction to the experience as a male in predominantly westernized society, of course it also made it's way into the social media in other places.

In my humble opinion it may just be the polarity of the phenomenon that is 'the modern dating market' lmao, it may as well be called 'the titanic of gender relations'. The interactions in most very developed societies are warped through quiet some layers of perception on both (let's keep it that simple) sides.

Institutions made it their paradigm to encourage hyperindividual autonomy on both sides -but with bigger consequences when happening on the female side, as well as encouraging career first identities, and 'viral therapy language' that is used in a weaponized fashion to justify a 'post-religious-view' on the bond between partners. It's also just too absolute - A no to 'regressive wifebeather you're bound to me for life behind the stove enslavement' does not have to mean bonnie blue on the other hand as 'F U partiarchy!' Sad shit really, we left the essence of democracy behind us when we abolished compromise - compromise is the only thing democracy is made for. The only thing making the liberal lifestyle possible in the first place. A rainbow colored meeting of antagonisms and 'a lil bouncy bouncy boom boom' is the conclusion of this lovely new way to take care of things.

Well, at least it is incentivised to choose the 'ironically buddhist way of non-attachement' as long as fertility reigns & the 'after me the deluge' approach when time runs out to start families by maaany - And of course maaaany things disincentivise starting families that on top of that.
The hyper individualized selfish fish in the advertising pond just chooses the 'way of least resistance' - while that is in reality in total resistance to the own existence. Basically the caricature of the meme of the copy of what boomers are painted as in some countries, the first to be really detached and selfish in a way.

Tech will take care about the 'wall of fertility', institutionalize the birth process so that 'everything is in order' in the future in my opinion.

Also hypergamy is a pretty normal thing being the evolutionary choice for those mates that look like they will provide the survival and protection in the wilderness - but weaponized in the social media matrix through the viral curse of grandiosity and narcissism to clownesque levels - and let's not forget the pipeline from social platform to 'intimate social platform'! The numbers in for example the US in certain age groups are astounding. For pennies mind you.

There came a point where many women staged themselves as un-approachable by their choice. Real concerns for the safety of women are perverted to make some people equal and others 'more equal than others.' And I do not necessarily mean opposite genders. I will not even start (I did anyways) to talk about the implications of this in 'the change of culture and demographics that my sad eye can see', as this basically just uses a hierarchical system of incentives to split the atom of the nuclear unit that is the only space between 'you and them'.

Since the dawn of time women had to defend themselves being the physically by average weaker gender -
so there had to be non-physical strategies to survive-

Now 'viral therapy language' is applied to 'dominate the other gender' in service of 'others' while giving a hedonistic advantage on the dating market, choosing the 'top 10% of men' on apps to be intimate with, as the self image and expectations social media paradigm delusion that 'they could tame the bad boy belongs to the top percentage' leads to phenomenon like the 'non chosen women' in china that chose career (to be fair they have a pretty hardcore traditions of expensive gifts to be made by the male part), that chose career over starting families and fun over commitment, just like some on the male side, but just way more significantly. Just compare the reality of 'choice of partners' between the genders & the abnormal level of mental barriers between a good time.

Going into almost fundamentalist practice of no-fap is a reaction of disgust and perceived self empowerment, a total rejection of the deranged dynamics that replaced those that held US ALL together for- hm let's see, how long? Yeah basically as long as humans existed, and maybe or most definitely in some way before that as funky primates( if that is what you choose to believe in :)

Strangely enough many women chose the 'self-objectifying' route of their own liberation', but it all makes sense as throwing off shackles incentivise to throw shit over board completely and then return to a middle ground.

But as the game is rigged i guess it will be in a way be 'part of the last dominos that fall' of a pretty damn good organized cultural revolution... If we just think about the implications of the queer community fighting for groups that in return fight for 'uncomfortable ways of life for queer people', yeah anyways - There is this german that kind of sums it up - 'to walk smiling into the circular saw'

This is fuggen helder skelder people lol, it's illusion meeting physical reality that i forsee, forseeeeeeeee 🔮✨👁️‍🗨️👁️

And basically the only thing that many guys that still rub their eyes see to gain power over themselves again, basically a structure, a path of power or such in lack of a quasi religious vacuum, a vacuum of before and after- a being in zero gravity with no nuclear form giving gravity to stop turning in disbelief.
In times where even the fuggen wars are devoid of any deeper 'why' for people participating, especially for the westernized side, less families, no shared identities, de-coupled from history- and full of 'why's' on the other side, as the west is fine tuned sacrificial goat material- loading on it all the sins of the world, portraying the abomination of guilt and godless derangedness. It's just the fall of rome in modern ways.

I guess it's similar to the carnivore trend as a reaction to veganism.

Paws on a board. Game theory and Cybernetics, syntax and synthesis - dissolution of inner structures and outer structures-
crystallization on invisible rails. Checkmate.

Strap in for a crazy show, it will be more colorful than the most radiant jungle feathers, more brutal than medieval torture,
like popcorn spiced with glass dust, a spectacle beyond imagination. Eternal Sleep in a way, and 'eternal' life in a field of pressure.

Man, all these texts turn out to be rants, i want them more structured and to the point 😐

Where will you be when the fan hits the shit? Will U be fappin?
 
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