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what are we really here for

Habegale

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. To do our will.
I would say “to do my will” for the original “what are we doing here?” Question I believe was directed at each individual, rather than any sort of collective spirit-of-group … I’m not so with the the whole “our” thing when it comes to “will” — I can speak for myself . But I understand what you meant.

Love is the Law
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I would say “to do my will” for the original “what are we doing here?” Question I believe was directed at each individual, rather than any sort of collective spirit-of-group … I’m not so with the the whole “our” thing when it comes to “will” — I can speak for myself . But I understand what you meant.

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Thank you for clarifying my words. I have always been rather bad with them.
 

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@Ohana only when you actually go down your journey you would find out the answers to your questions. Being a God will never be about satisfying some lower material desires. You will literally not even have a body if you decide to go down that Path. Your "body" would be an Universe, your dream would be a reality, your Soul will command an entire Universe. What brighter creation than this one? Your Soul only knows the answer of what do you really wish to go through in order to achieve your final objective. It always knew. The matter is you need to do the work of uncovering it. It has always been your duty and challenge to mine your Soul for the information you need and the journey you have been on-with all its obstacles and shortcuts-is there to prepare your Soul for this ultimate question. I will disappear tomorrow, your luck will change, you will go through yet another transformation but the essence of this question I'm bringing you about here and now-What is your Soul's ultimate choice will be with you till you exist or are in this Universe. It may not come to the surface tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, or a year from now, or may be two year, or may be again till the end of this lifetime...but, eventually, it will and then you will have to weight in the suffering you know, which will be placed as the price for living, and the creation you can see on a scale for you to choose-which one do you prefer and which one weights in heavier for you. Of that I'm certain. And the choice would be all yours. And that choice will mark your Soul forever!
I think I have mined my soul for an answer but I think I would rather not be that.

I feel as if I have barely gotten to live. I want to live and be with the lowly material plane. I haven't gotten tired of it yet. Despite all the suffering nothing beats eating a sandwich in my book. I have barely gotten the chance to live and I would prefer to be here.

Not up or below or side. Right here. I want to live. I like living.
 

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Why ... its simple of course ! Even a Martian knows ! from 4:50 - '' There is no secret ..... ''


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what reason do we have for being?
Depends on who you ask.

If you ask Camus, you'd get something about finding happiness in what you do in order to starve off the ultimate absurdity of existence.

Ask a Christian and they'd tell you it is to serve God and do His will in gratitude for His free gift of salvation.
 

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Ultimately, we're not here for anything. We are part of the process of reality doing it's thing, and reality cannot possibly be for anything other than itself. That said, since we are here, and we have to make choices about what we are going to do, there are some general guidelines in how to apply ourselves. These are things that will lead to greater long-term happiness for yourself and those you care about, which is really what we want. First, overcome the illusion of separation. Recognize yourself as an embodiment of the great spirit that is already whole and complete. Deeply internalize that recognition and let it transform your relationship to your life. Second, cultivate positive emotional states in yourself and seek to share these with others. Third, increase your personal power, not for its own sake but so that you can more effectively make the sphere around you flourish with life, love, and kindness.
 

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The sole purpose of the human race is survival and spreading the race further
 

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what reason do we have for being?
Fascinating question!!!!

The reason....
Maybe ... "finding ourselves" ...

And each time we fail, we reincarnated again to fulfil the purpose we left in our previous life ...

Just like a game, we level up and reaches the final level and become what we want ...

Or or or maybe ... we are here to be tested by God ...

Or or or or maybe ... we are in a waiting room of a running train and travelling towards our destination of higher self !!!
 

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what reason do we have for being?
TL;DR, neoplatonism and hermeticism are pretty based

Long version:

Okay, this is what I believe...

We are here to count, rank, and name, everything that exists as either a pattern, a symbol, a value, or an object.

That's it. That's what I believe. In plain and simple terms.

To explain a bit, if something "exists" then "it" can be measured. To measure "it" is to count, rank, or name "it" somehow (ironically, as I have already done here for example, by naming the "something" to which I have been referring so far as "it" - and now I've just referred to "it", also, as "something" here in this example.) "It" can be a pattern, in which case "it" is something like an "archetype" or a "god". "It" can also be a symbol, some kind of idea or image that seems to represent something, like a thought, a word, or a gesture, or a picture, or whatever. "It" can be a value, in which case it is a feeling, like, an appreciation for something, or a disdain for something, repulsion from "it". Or "it" can literally just be an object, plain as day, a hard pebble in my hand, a cloud in the sky, the wetness of the rain, some manifest physical event or property.

Whatever "it" is, we must name "it", and we must count "it" (that is to say, before we can even name "it", we must account for "it", we must count "it"), and we must also rank "it" (which is to say, "it" must be placed into some sort of order or hierarchy that is governed by some fixed set of rules). Furthermore, you cannot have one without the others. Names have no meaning if they cannot quantify something or qualify something - that is literally what names do. Words are names, and words are used to quantify things by declaring them, or to qualify things by describing them, you see? And you cannot count something that cannot be named or cannot be ranked. And you cannot rank something that cannot be named or counted, and so forth. It is because we are discussing three fundamental metaphysical ideas here, which are at the very basis of neoplatonim.

Cardinals. Ordinals. Nominals.

These are the three "triplicities" or "modalities" as they are also called - cardinal, fixed, mutable. Cardinal "mode" is to take account of something existing or bring something into being, fixed "mode" is ordering, structuring, preserving, ranking, and so forth, everything that has been accounted for or brought into existence already, and mutable "mode" is naming, giving meaning to, labeling, representing, arranging, everything that has been brought into being and given a structure already, so that it has something to work with already that it rearranges and "mutates" (mutable), or to put it another way "nominates" (nominal).

So, applying these then to the four elements, you get a rather air-tight (pun intended) ontological and teleological framework, if you're looking for something like that.
 
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