What are your views on hell?

[Eldros]

There exists no fire that is not an abstraction of certain set of stimuli. Whatever you think of as "fire" is in this regard indifferent to a mathematical description of how it works. Physical world doesn't have properties, only abstract objects have them. A map and a terrain are both samely abstractions of the same chunk of sensory data, only the second is perhaps more fine.

That just presumes your conclusion: that properties exist just in abstractions.
Even if we accept that fire is an abstraction, it doesn't mean that the abstraction itself is hot.
A map shows a landscape without actually being that landscape../

 

[Nembra]

That just presumes your conclusion: that properties exist just in abstractions.
Even if we accept that fire is an abstraction, it doesn't mean that the abstraction itself is hot.
A map shows a landscape without actually being that landscape../

Yes, but the landscape belongs to the set of its maps. "Hot" is and abstraction class. A property is an abstraction class.

 

[Eldros]

Yes, but the landscape belongs to the set of its maps. "Hot" is and abstraction class. A property is an abstraction class.

Calling "hot" an abstraction class doesn't make the class itself hot. You're still mistaking a property with its representation.
I think we've got to the point where we're working from different speculative assumptions, so I don't think continuing this will lead anywhere.
I'll leave it here. It was quite a challenging "duel"

 

[Nembra]

Calling "hot" an abstraction class doesn't make the class itself hot. You're still mistaking a property with its representation.
I think we've got to the point where we're working from different speculative assumptions, so I don't think continuing this will lead anywhere.
I'll leave it here. It was quite a challenging "duel"

I gladly accept the ceasefire