[Opinion] What is the BIBLE to you?

[zyfrtheFirst]

A simple question, it should be interesting to see what people say. Without revealing too much, what is your interpretation of what the BIBLE is?

To me, the bible is a record of what happened in the past whereby the God who created the Universe (Yaldabaoth) was subdued by some Earthly magicians in some ritual. In this ritual, the God of creation is made into a man so that he can be killed. Jesus then, is the God of the Old Testament who was incarnated through ritual magic, for the sake of magical POWER.

I have other specific beliefs which I am happy to discuss, but I want to hear what people know!

 

[Sedim Haba]

I guess I'm a bit of a Torah snob, I only trust what I translate myself. Mostly I do this with Genesis.

Also, some books of the Bible I outright 'un-canon' in my readings. 'Revelation' and anything written by Paul.

( Am I a christian? Most would say no, because I'm Adoptionist, not Incarnationist. )

I do explore Islam, but for Jinn related knowledge only.

Gnostic books, I'm still evaluating. Might be good for Goddess info with Sophia.

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I guess non of that really answers the OP question, but I hope you see that I treat each book differently, so I can't really.

 

[Firetree]

I'll start with the OT and the 'Jewish Bible' ( which Christians adopted ) ;

It is a collection of myth fables and some oral history and folk stories with some 'other histories' and their famous people 'adopted' and given other names ( like Solomon being based on Egyptian, Assyrian or Phoenician Kings ) collated contemporary with Josiah ( who made the Temple 'Jewish ' and Monotheist (it was not previously ) in an attempt (successful until recently* ) to create an idea of a previous unified kingdom between Israel and Judah , so Josiah could move north and take Israel due to the post Neo-Assyrian 'withdrawal / power vacuum in that area .

* due to modern research about the adoption , development and evolution of Jahweh into Judah and the work of modern archaeologists like the prominent Israeli Dr Israel Finklestein ( to name one ) .

In that regard , to me, I have to consider it one of the most successful con jobs in history ! ( and the modern world still has ideas about God from this source ! )

The NT is a collection of ancient, 1st-century Greco-Roman literature authored by humans , influenced by both Second Temple Judaism ( see above ) and Greco-Roman literature, with anonymous authors (not the apostles ), creating Jesus as the main character to hold the story plot together and to present the authors ethical and philosophical arguments about justice, mercy and subversion ( due to Roman rule ).

Generally ( NT + OT ) Its a great story and probably became so popular due to it being 'on the story line ' that is most popular ( Cinderaella has the same story line structure )

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[Sedim Haba]

Granted, the book of Genesis has stories far older, adopted and adapted. That does does not remove their meaning.

It does not work like say Exodus, with it's "... and God told Moses..."

When does the Bible transition to History? IDK. It's not that important to me to know.

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[zyfrtheFirst]

Granted, the book of Genesis has stories far older, adopted and adapted. That does does not remove their meaning.

It does not work like say Exodus, with it's "... and God told Moses..."

When does the Bible transition to History? IDK. It's not that important to me to know.

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Well I can tell you from reading Kant that Religion and Science have traded place in since the time of Galileo (where Religion was Dogmatists and the accepted method for arriving at TRUTH, while Science were the skeptics who had to correct dogmatists where they could)

The bible can viewed as the BEST interpretation of what is happening in reality, and how and why we exist. The gnostic interpretation is interesting. I looked specifically into the covenant ritual between Abraham and some God? who appeared as smoke and fire and interceded for him.

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In that regard , to me, I have to consider it one of the most successful con jobs in history ! ( and the modern world still has ideas about God from this source ! )

Do you suggest that none of what was written could have come from another place (DIVINELY INSPIRED) from spirits, or other forces? Do you think that it is a historical collection of books? What about the Quran or Torah which aren’t ‘compiled’ in the same way?

 

[Sedim Haba]

I see it different. Isra-El means "He struggles with God".

Abraham opposed God, unlike Noah. Pleaded the cause of Mankind. NOT just two cities, that was the endgame.

To be true to the narrative, you don't demonize like what Gnostics do, you oppose Him. Like Abraham.

My life mission is to be Abraham, to oppose God, in pursuit of Justice, with a balance of Mercy.

 

[Morell]

Bible is collection of very old texts... and there it ends for me.

 

[AlfrunGrima]

I have written it in other threads as well. My reformed grandmother gave as a present me a child-version of the Bible when I was at ten or eleven. I was expected to read it. What she didn't know was that I had borrow in the local Library already the books from Homerus and did read them. For me the bible only was another collection of stories and I liked Homerus more than the Bible.

Later on I started to sing the Matthäus Passion, but it is the drama that Bach pointed so well that catched me, not Matthew. I love baroque and this was a kind of Jesus Christ Superstar movie for me. The spiritual is in the concerts more in how people, singers/ performers / conductor / public, engage with that story emotionally. That is still quite impressive.