[Opinion] Why Angels?

[Pyrokar]

The Dane Cook of magick, the Right hand...
there have been many shots fired in the L.H. section from 'round these parts-
and we are firing back, especially about the angels.

completely "left-read" how it was explained to me was:
dee's magick is probably a way to usher in the literal apocalypse
because those feathery pricks want it to happen since it so happens
that they are literally soldiers.
Some might like humans? to most of them we are less than monkeys.
But don't kid yourselves, they have agendas too and are not
your babysitters or fairy godmothers.

And yet, the right hand gang over and over
falls back to angels over the smallest matters

the usual logic being sort of - why entity, or servitor, or familiar, or x or y or z when you can angel?
now, i don't want to be that guy (haha) but that is like, to my humble diss track, a bomb for an insect.
also, feels like a very American thing. You guys have a way with Christianity, but regardless of that
the rhetoric with the angels feels very Bible Belt type of talk.

go on, name me one fictional universe where they are not homicidal.
the latest i enjoyed were the angels from .....Good omens!

last but not least my final diss:

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[Lemongrass00]

completely "left-read" how it was explained to me was:
dee's magick is probably a way to usher in the literal apocalypse

Remember apocalypse also just means revelation as well, which Dee’s angels did bring in great revelation. It could also be interpreted as symbolic as it will cause the end of how humanity currently operates, as the system allows us to evolve our consciousness into the next stage, I do not take that theory literally (physically)

they have agendas too and are not
your babysitters or fairy godmothers

Wholeheartedly agree, there are accounts of people being “burned” particularly by Enochian entities. The agenda is quite straightforward though, angels are beings that want to raise your vibration, and they work in harmony with the source, while demonic entities do the opposite. Not to say one is bad and one is good, they each have their purposes, but that is the difference.

 

[Pyrokar]

apocalypse also just means revelation as well

the greater goood....

Dee’s angels did bring in great revelation

the greater goood...

but yeah,
this is why humanity can't be trusted with anything
as history obviously shows us, we are programmed
in our very fiber to be against their nature. weather the devil
or whoever is to blame for that does not matter,
the angelic maximum is a horrible existence for us.
that's going to jail for crossing the street
kim jong un state.
heaven really is a place on earth
lmao and in contrast The USA is devil country???
i just cracked the code boyzzzzz hahah

 

[Lemongrass00]

the greater goood....

the greater goood...

but yeah,
this is why humanity can't be trusted with anything
as history obviously shows us, we are programmed
in our very fiber to be against their nature. weather the devil
or whoever is to blame for that does not matter,
the angelic maximum is a horrible existence for us.
that's going to jail for crossing the street
kim jong un state.
heaven really is a place on earth
lmao and in contrast The USA is devil country???
i just cracked the code boyzzzzz hahah

uhhh I’m just going to let this go lol

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

So Pyrokar is LHP .. got it.

 

[Vandheer]

Whether you work with demons or angels have nothing to do with LHP or RHP.

 

[Diluculo_DelFuego]

Demons seem easier to work with in my opinioon, because of the earth influence and situation on the trees. Depending on what model of trees you follow. The earth vibration is low due to the way humans act toward each other, so the demons are more present, especially because of the mass of portals opened by practitioners that they dont close.
Why angels. Because of my faith, Id rather be blamed for trying to work with angels than working with demons.
Id like to be in the group tjhat has the promise to judge the angels/demons.
Because I believe in the higher calling of the angels.
Because they can do precisely what demons can do but in a higher good.

 

[Pyrokar]

You got me good what can i say.
but ya'll talk a lotta smack too and you know it.
it's well established i make gang connections out of everything.

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nah i got you with the heaven is a place on earth tho

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Because they can do precisely what demons can do but in a higher good.

that's the point. why relinquish your unique existence
in abiding to the dictations of a thing that regards you as dust.
demons are far closer to understanding or acknowledging humanity

 

[8Lou1]

when you know how to kickass, gods only option might be sending an angel to make it work. ever told azazel ( angel of death) that god gave us the earth to rule so if i tell him im not going back he should listen? he didnt listen. so now what? i know people who have visions of me while talking and say im an fire shooting angel. prob forgot to turn of my us robot mode or something, cause i aint made to pray, i sure as hell tried.

 

[Pyrokar]

i wonder which one of us is more hammered tbh

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[Lemongrass00]

that's the point. why relinquish your unique existence
in abiding to the dictations of a thing that regards you as dust.
demons are far closer to understanding or acknowledging humanity

It seems you have a very strong bias against them, I think the best way to go about it is to just compare your life after working with both substantially.

they do not view us as dust, or else they wouldn’t offer their hand to help us develop spiritually especially without ‘strings attatched’. This is all just speculation, maybe they view us as a middle ground, and recognize the divine in us and want to help us nurture that, if we choose to listen.

 

[8Lou1]

prob equally fucked...

 

[Pyrokar]

hm.
It was not the spirit in which i meant the thread,
but you do make fair points.
In my culture is also a strong reliance on both the saints
and the angels so much so that each "house" have their
specific holiday towards their personal saint/angel.

might be biased. and the only way to know is of course
to try before talking xD yeah, im with you.

im just saying, do something before you hit the problem
with a nuclear warhead, it is not their moral stance as such that bothers me.

 

[Lemongrass00]

hm.
It was not the spirit in which i meant the thread,
but you do make fair points.
In my culture is also a strong reliance on both the saints
and the angels so much so that each "house" have their
specific holiday towards their personal saint/angel.

might be biased. and the only way to know is of course
to try before talking xD yeah, im with you.

This might be a hot take but I would recommend working with angels before demons, it’s not the same for everybody but rule of thumb it’s a good idea.

 

[Pyrokar]

thanks,
yeah no i strictly avoid both sides



because thats the ultimate left hand beeeeeeetch

 

[Vandheer]

Look though, I would be much less scared of an angry demon than an angry angel.

Yall may wanna look into to negative side of Shemhamforash angels, they would make Goetia twerk in shame.

Robert Ambelains Kabbala book is the reference.

 

[8Lou1]

i inherited some spiritual stuff that is less strict then im used to. im used to having to defend myself for stating im not into praying to a statue or burning herbs for spirits. the things you mention as normal in your culture can freak me out. calvinism isnt strange to me, to say the least.

 

[Pyrokar]

I would be much less scared of an angry demon than an angry angel.

NOW you understand me, bro!

i will however in the name of science try and experiment.
it was a fun stunt to follow up for example my date of birth with the saints
of the time there are two of them, plotwist gemini
in terms of general it's all mercury or air related.
i might update.

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since we are deep into this surprise therapy
it might be valuable info to consider i ironically
had chocking.... something idk the medical term
it was gangsta though, they apparently had me wrapped up
in the skin of a goat, a goat. (know ur place), all kinds of herbalism
and i had problems with birds or feathered pillows.

how tf does that make sense o wise ones since the air is my angel?

anyway they took me on vacation to the sea and the legend says
it was at the same time very hot and humid and people were dropping in the streets
but to me it was the bees knees and i never had problems since, smoker for several years.

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how tf does that make sense o wise ones since the air is my ange

comes off super asshole-ish not intended. <3

 

[stratamaster78]

Me personally I have no problem with anyone's path be it RHP, LHP, MP...whatever.

It also doesn't bother me one way or the other which entities anyone wants to work with.... that is their choice.

I haven't even seen anyone talking 'smack' one way or the other but maybe I haven't been paying that close of attention.

 

[Pyrokar]

no that is just me being dramatic.
i don't actually see all the categories as anything,
it's all magick to me. heal or kill manowar.

anyway,the guy im looking for is apparently Raphael.
what now? my M.O is chaos approach which sounds heretical.