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Oh now we gotta have the former priest in the Church of Satan Mark Passio come yell at you. This guy's the general right there. This video I think that I made famous, I know there was a massive Facebook propaganda campaign of paid ads to try to get people to get the Covid vaccine and I was posting counter-information to it. There was a video of that conspiracy researcher Max Igan posted that I went around posting everywhere on those paid ads, a mainstream fact-checking website actually wrote an article trying to debunk it. Start watching at 18:00..
I would love to save the world, and although some think im an adept, and even the system calls me a Magus, I'm a humble Earth grade Zelator.
If you're looking for a group to save the world, perhaps join the Masons or some group that does shit tons of charity work. It may not save the world, but it's called philanthropy, where you are a better person by helping one or more people.
You know the homeless you see? Perhaps help one. If you can help someone find a job or lend them shelter, some would appreciate it.
What I'm saying is, yes, this world is run by psychopaths.
By helping one or more people in any way you can ... Even so much as a kind word to cause one person to smile, you are taking a stand against evil.
Has anybody here been prepping for a potential societal collapse or apocalypse? People have been dying from that Covid vaccine bioweapon and getting heart attacks and blood clots. The world's population might be killed off by half by 2030, billions. The dollar is based in fiat debt and many say is bound to collapse at some point soon. I've read in a book back in 2008 that billionaires were already building doomsday bunkers back then.
I haven't really been prepping the best but you're probably gonna want a ranch or a cabin in the woods somewhere, as well as off-road vehicles, guns and ammunition and canned goods. For the off-road vehicle I heard that the Nissan Xterra is good.
Oh now we gotta have the former priest in the Church of Satan Mark Passio come yell at you. This guy's the general right there. This video I think that I made famous, I know there was a massive Facebook propaganda campaign of paid ads to try to get people to get the Covid vaccine and I was posting counter-information to it. There was a video of that conspiracy researcher Max Igan posted that I went around posting everywhere on those paid ads, a mainstream fact-checking website actually wrote an article trying to debunk it. Start watching at 18:00..
i get the drift of doom, hell i used to love researching that stuff, but in the end you are saying and seeing the same shit i saw 20 years ago and the only real difference this time is that we are 20 years further. spanish flu, anyone? rambo as a friend of taliban, anyone? flower power and freedom of sex, anyone? etc.
its how the world works. humans are either fucked up for real or they love their deranged fantasies and look into the world with that in mind ( the eye of the beholder).
if you really want to do something then get a grip on your emotions and feelings and look into yourself where you find researching that stuff interesting. is that you or an outsider? can you change that thing? do you accept you secretly love watching and spreading the word? work true that and find out what you like about all this doom and learn to use it more productive for yourself. thats how you win this war.
cults get stopped for reasons, people are called crazy for reasons. you think i like being the drunk here? you think that happened because i smoked some weed? some shit goes very deep and some shit is just because you didnt shut up and you got attacked.
a funny side note btw, is the fact that david icke is not welcome in my country because hes an enemy of the state. he is the one saying draconians are evil. lhp has draconian currents. so it seems we work together sometimes...life is stranger then fiction. never forget.
Has anybody here been prepping for a potential societal collapse or apocalypse? People have been dying from that Covid vaccine bioweapon and getting heart attacks and blood clots. The world's population might be killed off by half by 2030, billions. The dollar is based in fiat debt and many say is bound to collapse at some point soon. I've read in a book back in 2008 that billionaires were already building doomsday bunkers back then.
I haven't really been prepping the best but you're probably gonna want a ranch or a cabin in the woods somewhere, as well as off-road vehicles, guns and ammunition and canned goods. For the off-road vehicle I heard that the Nissan Xterra is good.
Nope, I intend to go out into the great unknown at ground zero when karma comes around. I have no desire to live what I've been living forever and ever.
The absolute, 100% best way to prepare for collapse is to build ties with your local community
I hate that this is true, because I'm an introvert and don't really like getting to know my neighbours, but I have seen serious natural disasters in my own country and the government do nothing to help, and when you're cut off from everywhere else, the people who are physically nearby you RIGHT NOW are the people who will be deciding whether or not to help you, who they will take risks for, etc
(In practice, most people will help their neighbours in a disaster whether they know them or not. But when it comes down to the wire - "I only have one space in my car, whose kid do i take with me out of the flood/fire/bombing zone?" - they will choose the person they have some familiarity with over the complete stranger)
Humans are a communal species and it is only modern technology that allows us to live apparently independently (of course we're not independent, I just don't have to have any social ties with the people who grow my food). Post collapse, that luxury is gone, and if you sincerely believe it's immanent, then building ties now is hands down the best prep you can do.
People in our apartment building think my partner is an extrovert, but he's not, he's just better at prepping than I am
Again, Id rather just face karma. Seriously.
Prepping for the apocalypse, I'm so out of the game of life it's no longer funny to me.
So, Id rather be the idiot tripping over the non existent log in the horror movie.
There is a certain liberation in the “que sera sera” attitude isn’t there?
I’ve done a bit of preparation more for mere self reliance than “end of days”. Katrina taught me that much. So if shit hits the fan, I’ve got a water and food resource and minimal electricity. I don’t have stockpiles. I don’t live in fear.
Exactly. My stockpiling consisted of getting an extra can of something on my daily shopping trip, but it's amazing how much food got left behind when my second to last apartment became a literal shit storm back in summer.
And that taught me two things:
I need money reliably and consistently.
I need an apartment suited to me and my disabilities.
What happens beyond my circle of control, well, it's beyond my control.
That's the thing, we're already IN collapse, it just doesn't look like One Big Dramatic Event like in the movies, it's just everything gradually getting worse and harder, "once in a century" bushfires happening every Summer (except bushfire season starts in Spring now) and the line between "doing okay" and "struggling" getting thinner and thinner
Other than the community ties thing, I don't think there's anything you can really do to prepare - it's just about being flexible as this change
I guess, "make sure you get your sense of meaning from something other than a comfortable middle class lifestyle, so you have something to hold on to when you lose that". Which I would think people on WF would be relatively sorted for
To rule out a belief just because it is a "conspiracy theory" is sheerest illogic. It amounts to a huge leap of faith that all our institutions work to weed out harmful influences. I'm not saying OP here is correct either in main outlines or detail. I am saying the phrase "conspiracy theory" is a symptom of spiritual lassitude and moral sloth.
That was astounding, everything you just said was completely and utterly wrong. Nowhere in your propaganda iota spiel was there even one iota of factual truth.
Let's break down these claims.
• The Bavarian Illuminati WAS real but was shut down, hard, in 1784, by the Bavarion Government. The "New World Order" was conceptualized by someone who failed Latin. It is "New Order for/of the Ages' and refers to the United States as the Great Experiment: a Government of the people for the people. That was the idea anyway.
• So which are they? Satanists it Luciferians? These are different philosophies. I know you didn't mean that the Illuminati are Satanists. Again, Illuminati 1776-1784 while Satanism wasn't a thing til the late 1960s...and depending on what you are calling Luciferianism, it is younger than that.
Your statement about atheists in this context is equally ludicrous, esp. considering that Satanism was coined as an Atheistic movement. A bit of a history lesson: The Illuminati was a radical group that came out of Enlightenment era that believed religion was mere superstition and holding humanity back. They envisioned a world where most were atheists while the more educated might be deists or believe in what they called a naturalistic God, such as Spinoza's God. Now if you want to say some of that rhetoric persisted with the "God is dead" philosophical movement and persists in most liberal-leaning universities, fair enough and yet while your academic colleagues might wash their hands of you if you started practicing alchemy or became an advocate if Jung's methods, it is still a social taboo to criticize ones religion in polite company. Belonging to a church will in no way get you fired or cost you your career. Neither will being an atheist, yet I know many churches where an atheist would not be welcome to attend a dinner or an AA meeting. Not all, but too many.
• Ba'al is a Canaanite God. He has nothing to do whatsoever with Satanism, Luciferianism or Satanism. Again Satanism was coined as an Atheistic counterculture to Christian purity culture, and the Illuminati would of considered Baal a primitive superstition of barely, if civilized, times.
• So did you not see the recent re-affirmation by the Catholic Church that says you can not be a Freemason and be part of the Holy Sea or take communion because you are in a state of grave sin? The Catholic Church simply does not like Freemasonry and they haven't fir centuries...not since a little thing called the Protestant reformation. Now I am not going to defend the Catholic Church unless you start making some wild of the wall claims, as they bring most of their turmoil on themselves. Yes, that's right, I'll defend the Satanist and the Luciferian before the Catholic Church -at least if you harm a child you get kicked out of the Church of Satan.
• Freemasonry requires a belief in a supreme creator being. No atheist can be made a Mason. Most Masons are actually Protestant Christian and deeply religious men. There are also self-professing Catholics who are Masons and brothers don't snitch. It is the Catholic church who has an issue with Masonry, not brothers who have a problem with Catholics being brothers.
• Ah and there it is, the anti-Semitism. You claim to be Jewish by birth but don't seem to realize that that are twelve different tribes and numerous sects of Judaism. It is impossible to levy any motive against all practicing Jewish people other than being Torah observant in fostering a relationship to God. Judaism is also a culture and tribal identity. Perhaps you were born to a Jewish mother but you seem rather ignorant of Judaism.
• The left (as does the right) has plenty of agendas but theses are not the agendas you are looking for here. Please move along. Move along.
• You are just all over the place.... you know the Masonic Monitor and Guide is from a different time, and still talks about communism, in particularly how it is antithetical to Freemasonry. I'm pretty sure the Vatican dislikes it as well. As for the the Illuminati, they never saw Communism.
• -and in typical fashion you end your ramble with a vaccine conspiracy. I wonder if you are genuinely sincere or are a troll. Regardless vaccine conspiracies are not Germain to this forum, or at least the subforum, and I am going to try and avoid that derailment.
To rule out a belief just because it is a "conspiracy theory" is sheerest illogic. It amounts to a huge leap of faith that all our institutions work to weed out harmful influences. I'm not saying OP here is correct either in main outlines or detail. I am saying the phrase "conspiracy theory" is a symptom of spiritual lassitude and moral sloth.
The problem is he is espousing well known rhetoric, not an original idea or insight. Hell, he doesn't have to be original he just has to have a reason for his position...but as it stands he has substantiated none of his claims. He hasn't even given an argument to arrived at his position or substantiate anything. He just gives us drival.
I want to be very clear as well: I could not care less what his believes are, I'm not looking for UPG. I care about what he can substantiated...which again, so far is nothing.
We don't have to respect everyone's opinion, merely their right to freedom of opinion. A conspiracy theory may be nothing more than a theory about conspiring agents, and it may be worth investing. However, it amazes me how far people will go out on a whim skewing their sense of reality just so they can believe it true!
If I have a hunch someone may have betrayed me, for example, I do not want to believe it to be true and to act before getting all the facts would be foolish, and a betrayal on my part. I do have to consider my own well-being however and if this betrayal has harmed a third part I must seek the truth wherever it takes me.
What I will not do is commit my hunch to being my reality and thus is the difference between the sane individual and the so-called "conspiracy theorist".
That's the thing, we're already IN collapse, it just doesn't look like One Big Dramatic Event like in the movies, it's just everything gradually getting worse and harder, "once in a century" bushfires happening every Summer (except bushfire season starts in Spring now) and the line between "doing okay" and "struggling" getting thinner and thinner
Other than the community ties thing, I don't think there's anything you can really do to prepare - it's just about being flexible as this change
I guess, "make sure you get your sense of meaning from something other than a comfortable middle class lifestyle, so you have something to hold on to when you lose that". Which I would think people on WF would be relatively sorted for
I was at a work event one time and the head of HR was speaking excitedly about some minor process. The woman sitting next to me commented that she was "a waste of space"
Then a senior mining engineer went up and stood next to her. He was calm and radiant - a huge contrast.
So I looked for the HR person's solar/guardian angel and she did not have one. She was soulless and in charge of the "resources" that were 5000 humans.
It is relatively common to see humans without a soul (solar angel).
The solar angel operates the soul body until the human reaches first stage enlightenment
The soul body in a human corresponds to the Neshama. The soul body is composed of the 3 highest mental subplanes.
At first stage enlightenment the human has control over its higher mental body so that the deva managing it on behalf of the human progressively withdraws
The human then learns to control heart and intent and eventually the solar angel is gone - and Monad/Yechidah operates directly through that one of its various humans
What model is this from? You generally won't be able to scry ones HGA because it is for them alone but clearly you are talking about more modern ideas from elsewhere.
That was astounding, everything you just said was completely and utterly wrong. Nowhere in your propaganda iota spiel was there even one iota of factual truth.
Let's break down these claims.
• The Bavarian Illuminati WAS real but was shut down, hard, in 1784, by the Bavarion Government. The "New World Order" was conceptualized by someone who failed Latin. It is "New Order for/of the Ages' and refers to the United States as the Great Experiment: a Government of the people for the people. That was the idea anyway.
• So which are they? Satanists it Luciferians? These are different philosophies. I know you didn't mean that the Illuminati are Satanists. Again, Illuminati 1776-1784 while Satanism wasn't a thing til the late 1960s...and depending on what you are calling Luciferianism, it is younger than that.
Your statement about atheists in this context is equally ludicrous, esp. considering that Satanism was coined as an Atheistic movement. A bit of a history lesson: The Illuminati was a radical group that came out of Enlightenment era that believed religion was mere superstition and holding humanity back. They envisioned a world where most were atheists while the more educated might be deists or believe in what they called a naturalistic God, such as Spinoza's God. Now if you want to say some of that rhetoric persisted with the "God is dead" philosophical movement and persists in most liberal-leaning universities, fair enough and yet while your academic colleagues might wash their hands of you if you started practicing alchemy or became an advocate if Jung's methods, it is still a social taboo to criticize ones religion in polite company. Belonging to a church will in no way get you fired or cost you your career. Neither will being an atheist, yet I know many churches where an atheist would not be welcome to attend a dinner or an AA meeting. Not all, but too many.
• Ba'al is a Canaanite God. He has nothing to do whatsoever with Satanism, Luciferianism or Satanism. Again Satanism was coined as an Atheistic counterculture to Christian purity culture, and the Illuminati would of considered Baal a primitive superstition of barely, if civilized, times.
• So did you not see the recent re-affirmation by the Catholic Church that says you can not be a Freemason and be part of the Holy Sea or take communion because you are in a state of grave sin? The Catholic Church simply does not like Freemasonry and they haven't fir centuries...not since a little thing called the Protestant reformation. Now I am not going to defend the Catholic Church unless you start making some wild of the wall claims, as they bring most of their turmoil on themselves. Yes, that's right, I'll defend the Satanist and the Luciferian before the Catholic Church -at least if you harm a child you get kicked out of the Church of Satan.
• Freemasonry requires a belief in a supreme creator being. No atheist can be made a Mason. Most Masons are actually Protestant Christian and deeply religious men. There are also self-professing Catholics who are Masons and brothers don't snitch. It is the Catholic church who has an issue with Masonry, not brothers who have a problem with Catholics being brothers.
• Ah and there it is, the anti-Semitism. You claim to be Jewish by birth but don't seem to realize that that are twelve different tribes and numerous sects of Judaism. It is impossible to levy any motive against all practicing Jewish people other than being Torah observant in fostering a relationship to God. Judaism is also a culture and tribal identity. Perhaps you were born to a Jewish mother but you seem rather ignorant of Judaism.
• The left (as does the right) has plenty of agendas but theses are not the agendas you are looking for here. Please move along. Move along.
• You are just all over the place.... you know the Masonic Monitor and Guide is from a different time, and still talks about communism, in particularly how it is antithetical to Freemasonry. I'm pretty sure the Vatican dislikes it as well. As for the the Illuminati, they never saw Communism.
• -and in typical fashion you end your ramble with a vaccine conspiracy. I wonder if you are genuinely sincere or are a troll. Regardless vaccine conspiracies are not Germain to this forum, or at least the subforum, and I am going to try and avoid that derailment.
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The problem is he is espousing well known rhetoric, not an original idea or insight. Hell, he doesn't have to be original he just has to have a reason for his position...but as it stands he has substantiated none of his claims. He hasn't even given an argument to arrived at his position or substantiate anything. He just gives us drival.
I want to be very clear as well: I could not care less what his believes are, I'm not looking for UPG. I care about what he can substantiated...which again, so far is nothing.
We don't have to respect everyone's opinion, merely their right to freedom of opinion. A conspiracy theory may be nothing more than a theory about conspiring agents, and it may be worth investing. However, it amazes me how far people will go out on a whim skewing their sense of reality just so they can believe it true!
If I have a hunch someone may have betrayed me, for example, I do not want to believe it to be true and to act before getting all the facts would be foolish, and a betrayal on my part. I do have to consider my own well-being however and if this betrayal has harmed a third part I must seek the truth wherever it takes me.
What I will not do is commit my hunch to being my reality and thus is the difference between the sane individual and the so-called "conspiracy theorist".
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I recommend "Coal Miner's Daughter and my Roots playlist on YouTube for contemplation on this.
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What model is this from? You generally won't be able to scry ones HGA because it is for them alone but clearly you are talking about more modern ideas from elsewhere.
Actually I like what you said about not having to respect everyone's opinion. Respect is like gold: if you mine it yourself you value it rightly. Heirs take it for granted. (I know of one crochety old sorcerer who nightly recites the UN's "Universal Declaration of Human Rights" backwards for that very reason. Wants to rouse an alternative ethos, he does. A rather too phantistical fygure for this enlightened age of ours, though he obeys a certain logic.)
Not only did you entirely miss the point, but you keep inserting your own UPG without substantiating any of it. Where are you getting that a HGA is allocated up to 12 humans at a time? Nowhere does it say that in the book of Abramelin nor does Agrippa say such a thing when he mentions the Holy Angel. In fact not one historic textual source makes a claim that you were making here nor does any source describe the nature of the angel and such a way as to be in agreement with what you are saying.
